Fuel Pressure Gauge Install - Pre Filter - Filter Lid - Page 2

Superduty · 01-28-2006, 03:18 PM

Hi guys. I'm glad to see you.

Yep, you could put a sender in that hole or attach a remove gauge. I'll post pictures on how to do it with more detail.

I'm wondering if it would be easier to tap that hole NPT rather than ORB. Hmmm... let me give it some thought.

PM me before you actually do anything in case I have some tips from what I've learned.

__________________
In Cummins we trust.

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod.
Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge.

I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ?

My diesel blog:
http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

043500QC · 01-28-2006, 10:55 PM

I love how you have the CAT filter mounted, but with all the talk of heat soak lately, do you think its a concern mounting the filters right there.

My dad has a good idea on the filter thing too. Why not mount the filters down on the frame rail somewhere, plumb the lines right up into the stock filter canister, but leave out the filter. Then you still maintain the stock fuel heater and you have the 2 mic filtration as well.

What do ya think about that ?

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04 3500 SRW Quad Cab Laramie package,Deep Molten Red/Silver, BDPP/Edge EZ stack, BD RFI, Tone Ring Mod, Silencer Ring MIA, Gutted stock "torque tube", ISSPRO Pyro, Boost, Trans Temp, & FP gauges, GDP Walbro fuel pump kit...

99 Ford Ranger Trailer queen with too many mods to list
August 05 Mini Truckin Magazine Feature truck

Superduty · 01-28-2006, 11:03 PM

"I love how you have the CAT filter mounted, but with all the talk of heat soak lately, do you think its a concern mounting the filters right there."

That heat soak talk is rubbish. Sorry to be blunt. On the 94-97 Powerstrokes, the fuel circulated right through the head and back into the tank. Fuel doesn't pick up a whole lot of heat in the engine compartment.

"My dad has a good idea on the filter thing too. Why not mount the filters down on the frame rail somewhere, plumb the lines right up into the stock filter canister, but leave out the filter. Then you still maintain the stock fuel heater and you have the 2 mic filtration as well. What do ya think about that ?"

We all have opinions on filters. I think that 2 micron is too fine to run without a pre filter for it, so I run dual filters.

I also like the water trap, water in fuel indicator and fuel heater in the stock filter. The fuel heater should go before the 2 micron filter too.

__________________
In Cummins we trust.

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod.
Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge.

I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ?

My diesel blog:
http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

01-29-2006, 05:49 AM

I run the Amsoil BE-100 single 2 micron

I have it mounted on the block below the turbo, there are a couple of bolt holes there and a ton of room.

Oil feed comes from the top of the OEM filter ( filtered side) then into the polish filter......so I get the 10 micron filtering then a 10% slip stream feeds the 2 micron polish filter

The return line comes up and into the oil filler cap where I have a swivel

Working very well for me too

Cheers, Kevin

Superduty · 01-29-2006, 08:33 AM

I think you are speaking of an oil filter. This is a fuel filter.

BTW: If someone is worried about the heat pickup at that filter, it could always be wrapped in insulating foam.

__________________
In Cummins we trust.

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod.
Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge.

I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ?

My diesel blog:
http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

smokin05 · 01-29-2006, 08:38 AM

honestly superduty that filter might need to be a little warm being two micron.....diesel gets kinda thick and gels up when its cold (not that i would know being in texas and all!) but a little heat might be just the ticket its not going to be enought to worry about but i would bet it helps that filter out a good bit .....just a thought ?

__________________
05 HO 325/610 The slipping G56 6 speed 4 door 4x4 3.73 long bed SLT Homemade torque tube/ airbox mod. crank sensor....homemade boost trick and 6 level fule control....more power than i have nerve!

Superduty · 01-29-2006, 09:27 AM

I agree. Some people have come up with the argument that circulating fuel to the injection pump and back and/or running a filter like that or running a Walbro is going to heat the fuel too much.

I don't agree, but I don't have the energy to fight with people about fuel pumps right now.

__________________
In Cummins we trust.

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod.
Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge.

I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ?

My diesel blog:
http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

smokin05 · 01-29-2006, 09:49 AM

i certain understand the energy thing! i certainly dont think that your gonna get the fuel to hot? thats kinda out there considering where the fuel tank is located? under the truck where it stays pretty warm to begin with? you have to get diesel really really hot before there are any real issues... and its vented system so its not like the heat and pressure build in the system?

speaking of heat do you know anyone in the cummins family that has done a veg. oil conversion? i know some of my ol' 7.3 guys who have, but none w/ the hpcr ststem....the ford used the hpop to slam the fuel in, kinda different that the engine we have what are your thoughts? i am sure filtration and heat will be needed?

__________________
05 HO 325/610 The slipping G56 6 speed 4 door 4x4 3.73 long bed SLT Homemade torque tube/ airbox mod. crank sensor....homemade boost trick and 6 level fule control....more power than i have nerve!

Superduty · 01-29-2006, 09:52 AM

You have to be very careful with using high viscosity fuels in constant displacement pumps (VE, P7100, VP44) because the pressures can get extremely high.

__________________
In Cummins we trust.

'99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod.
Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge.

I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ?

My diesel blog:
http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

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01-28-2006, 03:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Superduty Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397 Superduty's Truck Pics	Hi guys. I'm glad to see you. Yep, you could put a sender in that hole or attach a remove gauge. I'll post pictures on how to do it with more detail. I'm wondering if it would be easier to tap that hole NPT rather than ORB. Hmmm... let me give it some thought. PM me before you actually do anything in case I have some tips from what I've learned. __________________ In Cummins we trust. '99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod. Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge. I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ? My diesel blog: http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

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01-28-2006, 10:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
043500QC Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TN Posts: 73 043500QC's Truck Pics	I love how you have the CAT filter mounted, but with all the talk of heat soak lately, do you think its a concern mounting the filters right there. My dad has a good idea on the filter thing too. Why not mount the filters down on the frame rail somewhere, plumb the lines right up into the stock filter canister, but leave out the filter. Then you still maintain the stock fuel heater and you have the 2 mic filtration as well. What do ya think about that ? __________________ 04 3500 SRW Quad Cab Laramie package,Deep Molten Red/Silver, BDPP/Edge EZ stack, BD RFI, Tone Ring Mod, Silencer Ring MIA, Gutted stock "torque tube", ISSPRO Pyro, Boost, Trans Temp, & FP gauges, GDP Walbro fuel pump kit... 99 Ford Ranger Trailer queen with too many mods to list August 05 Mini Truckin Magazine Feature truck

01-28-2006, 11:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Superduty Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397 Superduty's Truck Pics	"I love how you have the CAT filter mounted, but with all the talk of heat soak lately, do you think its a concern mounting the filters right there." That heat soak talk is rubbish. Sorry to be blunt. On the 94-97 Powerstrokes, the fuel circulated right through the head and back into the tank. Fuel doesn't pick up a whole lot of heat in the engine compartment. "My dad has a good idea on the filter thing too. Why not mount the filters down on the frame rail somewhere, plumb the lines right up into the stock filter canister, but leave out the filter. Then you still maintain the stock fuel heater and you have the 2 mic filtration as well. What do ya think about that ?" We all have opinions on filters. I think that 2 micron is too fine to run without a pre filter for it, so I run dual filters. I also like the water trap, water in fuel indicator and fuel heater in the stock filter. The fuel heater should go before the 2 micron filter too. __________________ In Cummins we trust. '99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod. Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge. I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ? My diesel blog: http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

01-29-2006, 05:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	I run the Amsoil BE-100 single 2 micron I have it mounted on the block below the turbo, there are a couple of bolt holes there and a ton of room. Oil feed comes from the top of the OEM filter ( filtered side) then into the polish filter......so I get the 10 micron filtering then a 10% slip stream feeds the 2 micron polish filter The return line comes up and into the oil filler cap where I have a swivel Working very well for me too Cheers, Kevin

01-29-2006, 08:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
Superduty Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397 Superduty's Truck Pics	I think you are speaking of an oil filter. This is a fuel filter. BTW: If someone is worried about the heat pickup at that filter, it could always be wrapped in insulating foam. __________________ In Cummins we trust. '99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod. Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge. I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ? My diesel blog: http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

01-29-2006, 08:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
smokin05 Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rockwall Tx Posts: 57 smokin05's Truck Pics	honestly superduty that filter might need to be a little warm being two micron.....diesel gets kinda thick and gels up when its cold (not that i would know being in texas and all!) but a little heat might be just the ticket its not going to be enought to worry about but i would bet it helps that filter out a good bit .....just a thought ? __________________ 05 HO 325/610 The slipping G56 6 speed 4 door 4x4 3.73 long bed SLT Homemade torque tube/ airbox mod. crank sensor....homemade boost trick and 6 level fule control....more power than i have nerve!

01-29-2006, 09:27 AM	#19 (permalink)
Superduty Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397 Superduty's Truck Pics	I agree. Some people have come up with the argument that circulating fuel to the injection pump and back and/or running a filter like that or running a Walbro is going to heat the fuel too much. I don't agree, but I don't have the energy to fight with people about fuel pumps right now. __________________ In Cummins we trust. '99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod. Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge. I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ? My diesel blog: http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/

01-29-2006, 09:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
smokin05 Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rockwall Tx Posts: 57 smokin05's Truck Pics	i certain understand the energy thing! i certainly dont think that your gonna get the fuel to hot? thats kinda out there considering where the fuel tank is located? under the truck where it stays pretty warm to begin with? you have to get diesel really really hot before there are any real issues... and its vented system so its not like the heat and pressure build in the system? speaking of heat do you know anyone in the cummins family that has done a veg. oil conversion? i know some of my ol' 7.3 guys who have, but none w/ the hpcr ststem....the ford used the hpop to slam the fuel in, kinda different that the engine we have what are your thoughts? i am sure filtration and heat will be needed? __________________ 05 HO 325/610 The slipping G56 6 speed 4 door 4x4 3.73 long bed SLT Homemade torque tube/ airbox mod. crank sensor....homemade boost trick and 6 level fule control....more power than i have nerve!

01-29-2006, 09:52 AM	#21 (permalink)
Superduty Tech Specialist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 397 Superduty's Truck Pics	You have to be very careful with using high viscosity fuels in constant displacement pumps (VE, P7100, VP44) because the pressures can get extremely high. __________________ In Cummins we trust. '99 Ford Superduty CC with 05 Cummins 325/600, BHAF, Donalson M090544 and ZF6 transmission. Tone ring mod. Walbro 392 lift pump. 2 micron fuel filter on engine with filter lid pressure gauge. I've been running a Walbro 392 since 2000. How long did your fuel pump last ? My diesel blog: http://common-sense-diesel.blogspot.com/