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NV5600 6 Speed 1st or 2nd gear start?

So I just bought this new truck and it has the NV5600 6 speed transmission and I want a clear answer on what gear to start in. Okay so let's say I'm not towing or hauling anything. If I'm at a stop light and I'm completely stopped (not uphill), should I start in 1st or 2nd gear? I have been starting in second gear usually but I hate when I get that lugging/grinding sound. If I don't accelerate fast enough while starting in second gear I get that lugging sound and I feel as if that can't be good for the truck. Should I just start out in 1st gear from now on?

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Starting in second is fine even if it feels like it's lugging a little isn't gonna hurt anything. And it beats shifting twice in like 2 seconds lol. 1st gear is super low in this trans more meant for starting on hills if you have a load, etc.


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Starting in second is fine even if it feels like it's lugging a little isn't gonna hurt anything. And it beats shifting twice in like 2 seconds lol. 1st gear is super low in this trans more meant for starting on hills if you have a load, etc.


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Thanks for the answer. Also, you say the lugging/grinding sound isn't gonna hurt anything?
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I always started in 2nd with my 04 that had a nv5600 when unloaded truck had 170k miles when I sold it to get my current truck no problems. Only used first when I needed to crawl in traffic or towing trailers.
Make sure your gear box has 6 qts in it (over fill by one quart) to keep it alive.

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Both the answers above I agree. Really no need for first unless you have a load. You just need to shift sooner. If you are on a steep incline, put it in first and let the clutch do the work for you.

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I always started in 2nd with my 04 that had a nv5600 when unloaded truck had 170k miles when I sold it to get my current truck no problems. Only used first when I needed to crawl in traffic or towing trailers.
Make sure your gear box has 6 qts in it (over fill by one quart) to keep it alive.
Ok thank you. Did you ever have the lugging sound though?


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The only time I use first is when I just let the truck idle along in really slow traffic. Second gear starts are fine. And like jsmuck said, just one less shift in a couple of seconds.

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Thanks for the answer. Also, you say the lugging/grinding sound isn't gonna hurt anything?
If we're thinking of the same thing then no. Does the truck possible have an aftermarket clutch? Some of them especially if dual disk will have a lot of chatter/noise at lower speeds and starting off which is normal and not a problem. Stock clutches in my experience are usually fairly quiet though


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I'm pretty sure its the same sound my truck makes. I don't know if my clutch is stock or not. That lugging sound is normal for me at least and I havent had any issues.

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If we're thinking of the same thing then no. Does the truck possible have an aftermarket clutch? Some of them especially if dual disk will have a lot of chatter/noise at lower speeds and starting off which is normal and not a problem. Stock clutches in my experience are usually fairly quiet though


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I do not believe it has an aftermarket clutch. The thing that also leads me to believe that it does no damage is that, it only makes he lugging sound sometimes. It only happens if I'm not accelerating fast enough which seems to make sense.

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Yea as long as the gear box is full like mentioned above I wouldn't worry about it


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Yea as long as the gear box is full like mentioned above I wouldn't worry about it


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I agree. You let the rpm s drop she'll groan for a second

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