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Old 05-17-2012, 02:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Re-prime / bleed fuel lines

I have a 2007 ram, straight piped, cold air and edge juice w/ attitude.

I was low on fuel, not empty but the truck justed sputtering at idle to turn into the gas station. I didnt run dry but when I turned the off to fill up it wouldnt restart.

I have followed the steps to prime the system. Go to start the truck as usual, crank for a second then start cranking again when the lift pump shuts off. Ive done this countless times now.

Last night, the truck sounded like it was starting to turn over with whitesmoke from the exhaust. Is this progress?

Is the edge interfereing? Should I unplug it?

Any other tips?
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self priming system, dont crack the lines pressurized fuel can kill you.Remove the edge to see if its interfering. white smoke is a drippy n dirty injector. all white smoke is is unburned fuel.
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may have fried the lift pump or the HP CP3 pump from no diesel for lube/cooling
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I can hear the lift pump running. It also fills the fuel filter reservoir.
There is fuel getting to the injectors. Would that be the case if the cp3 was shot?

How many times should I be doing the crank cycle before it fires?
Do EGTs play any part in being able to tell if it's close to firing or not?

When I'm crank, I can hear the engine chugging like it's trying to start up but it's not. EGTs were only hitting 100 before, today they're hitting past 140 degrees. Like I asked, is that an indication of anything?
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people say dont crack the line while cranking.....well i took my fuel rail off to get to my intake plenuim and when i put it back together i had to crack the #1 cyl line while i had a buddy crank it and it took a few cranks to get fuel to the injectors then it fired right up.
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people say dont crack the line while cranking.....well i took my fuel rail off to get to my intake plenuim and when i put it back together i had to crack the #1 cyl line while i had a buddy crank it and it took a few cranks to get fuel to the injectors then it fired right up.
Well thats good for you but the day the 4500+ psi diesel cuts into you hopefully your brain will regain the ability to work. Yes this is a totally self priming system, no need or use in cracking open any of the fuel lines (especially injector lines) to "bleed" the system.

Just cause you can hear the lift pump doesnt mean it is pumping the appropriate mount of fuel. Id say check lift pump flow and pressure first. If its all good move on to the CP3. Like Steelhead said possibly you burnt out one of or both of the pumps due to lack of lube/fuel.
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fresh meat anyone from a former "homebrew diesel mechanic"

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plugged fuel filter
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fresh meat anyone from a former "homebrew diesel mechanic"

Can you say ouch??????



He's lucky he dosent have a whole all the way through his hand........
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I'm not saying its the right way but funny enough the diesel tech at the stealership suggested that I crack the injector line. Absolutely no more than one turn.

Fuel filter still in new condition. Same colour as when I bought it.

How would one check for debris in the lines?

Remember, the truck didnt die because it went dry. I turned it off at the gas pump. It had pnly started sputtering at an idle waiting to turn into the station.
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crack a line loose before the cp and see what its doing
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running these HPCRs below 1/8 tank results in hot diesel with lots of air mixed in going to the pumps. lift pump overheats which causes damage.

CP3 overheats from hot fuel and air mixed in. Diesel with large amounts of air bubbles has little to no lube quality.

remember the CP3 bypasses at least 80% and most of the time over 90% of the diesel going into it for cooling and lubrication.

only takes seconds to damage a CP3.
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