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Smarty or edge jucie with attitude? For a stock 03 common rail? Which ones easiest on fuel an power train?

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I like the smartys but I don't have a CR so I should not tell you anything but just my $0.02 you need guages first Zane!!!

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I really like my S-06 POD. It has a good bit of customability. But having the screen for the edge is a pretty nice feature too. I'm sure other guys with a lot more background will chime in here with some more useful info.
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Smarty or edge jucie with attitude? For a stock 03 common rail? Which ones easiest on fuel an power train?
Your right foot dictates how easy a tuner is on your power train. My vote is for a smarty and gauges.

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There ya go Zane! (S06 pod is the smarty) plus I like the looks of the traditional 3 guage pod on the pillar! And I agree with amstall. There is a lot of customability.

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Edge has safety backdown feature that watches your egt's, trans or clutch for slippage, and coolent temp. It will back off your power if it sees your truck going close to harm and the thresholds are adjusable (or even defeatable) by you. Smarty has NO safety feature! Edge has gauges built in. Smarty does not! Edge can be found in the classifieds for $300-$400. Smarty is almost double that, and you still need hundreds of dollars worth of gauges! Smaty has been known to lock up ecm's! Edge has no history of this. Dealer can wipe your tune off your truck unknowingly with smarty. They cant do that wirh edge. Now Smarty supporters will talk about all the tuning options you get with Smarty. It is true, but they have NO capability to truly change tunes on the fly! Edge does. Smarty guys say ( wrongfuly) how HOT edge runs (refering to high egt's), and how they can use the smarty's vast tuning capabilities to tune down thier egt's. What they are missing is you can turn down the high torque yeilding low boost fueling with edge also! Edge calls it throttle responce and it is adjustible, levels 1-5 ( lvl1=no smoke or low torque, lvl2=low smoke, lvl3=average, better throttle responce, lvl5= best throttle responce or higest possable egts and most smoke) in all power levels1-5 (1=better fuel milage, 2=towing, 3=drive, 4=race, 5=extreme, and a optional lvl6=hot unlock 200hp+). Thats a total of 30 tunes you can choose from, pluse the stock setting! All completly adjustable at ANY time you want, with just a touch of a button instantly no matter what your doing. Smarty does have a 230hp tune that does trump edge, but it is so hot its hardly usable. Smarty can be used as a scan tool, were edge juice with additude can not ( i bought a scan tool at my local auto parts store for $60). My vote is for EDGE! Good Luck!

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Edge has safety backdown feature that watches your egt's, trans or clutch for slippage, and coolent temp. It will back off your power if it sees your truck going close to harm and the threshold are adjusable (or defeatable) by you. Smarty has NO safety feature! Edge has gauges built in. Smarty does not! Edge can be found in the classifieds for $300-$400. Smarty is almost double that, and you still need hundreds of dollars worth of gauges! Smaty has been known to lock up ecm's! Edge has no history of this. Dealer can wipe your tune off your truck unknowingly with smarty. They cant do that wirh edge. Now Smarty supporters will talk about all the tuning options you get with Smarty. It is true, but they have NO capability to truly change tunes on the fly! Edge does. Smarty guys say ( wrongfuly) how HOT edge runs (refering to high egt's), and how they can use the smarty's vast tuning capabilities to tune down thier egt's. What they are missing is you can turn down the high torque yeilding low boost fueling with edge also! Edge calls it throttle responce and it is adjustible, levels 1-5 ( lvl1=no smoke or low torque, lvl2=low smoke, lvl3=average, better throttle responce, lvl5= best throttle responce or higest possable egts and most smoke) in all power levels1-5 (1=better fuel milage, 2=towing, 3=drive, 4=race, 5=extreme, and a optional lvl6=hot unlock 200hp+). Thats a total of 30 tunes you can choose from, pluse the stock setting! All completly adjustable at ANY time you want, with just a touch of a button instantly no matter what your doing. Smarty does have a 230hp tune that does trump edge, but it is so hot its hardly usable. Smarty can be used as a scan tool, were edge juice with additude can not ( i bought a scan tool at my local auto parts store for $60). My vote is for EDGE! Good Luck!

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I have had the Edge Juice w Att and currently run a Smarty w gauges. Im sticking w the Smarty. The Edge is a good box, for beginners.

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I also have run both. If buying new, edge costs the same as smarty with gauges. I bought my smarty brand new & got it for $550 to my door, just have to shop around. As far as the edge gauges, they are not as accurate as real gauges, but they are close enough to be safe. The edge is nice for its on the fly adjustability, which can sorta be done with a smarty (by using the POD feature) but its not really the same thing. The edge seemed to tow better on the tow setting than the smarty but maybe I just haven't found the correct smarty setting yet. The smarty is a lot more customizable, meaning that if you ever plan on really hopping up the truck, it will be better for you. It can turn off certain things in the computer such as the electronic wastegate on 04.5 & newer trucks & the over boost codes on 03,04 trucks. These are essential if you ever go to an aftermarket turbo. Edge cannot do this. Finally, as far as all out power, the smarty definitely has more! I didn't have the hot unlock on my edge, but even on lower settings with the smarty, I feel it has better throttle response & better mileage too. One other thing about the smarty is you get free software updates for life on their website, & can even switch over to TNT-R for free if you get mod crazy. It may sound like I'm on the smarty side, but I'm really not. I like them both, they just have pros & cons & since I have used both, I thought maybe I could enlighten you to them.

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Wow this is why I like other peoples opinions on This kinda stuf I'm stil not sure what I'm gonna do yet but Thanks for your help guys!
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just wondering what about E.F.I. Live great info.
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