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Old 02-01-2008, 04:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry carrier bearing/driveshaft bearing failure help please

has any one found a anything better to the stock bearing on the 2 piece drive sharft. My truck tears the bearing from the rubber pretty often I called some dealers around here and they want about $180. About $130 more than i payed a year ago in OKC, OK I need to find somthing more durable ive shimed the drive shaft due to the lift helps a little, but still vibes taking off from a stop through 30mph and it destroys the rubber in the carrier bearing.

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Old 02-01-2008, 05:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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check out dodgeparts.com for the parts under the oem catalog. Most of the time they are a lot cheaper than the STEALERSHIP even with added shipping. I'm no aware of any aftermarket replacements for that bearing but you might want to check with napa or carquest.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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send the money and have a one piece drive shaft built
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi, first time posting here. Getting frustrated diagnosing a vibration. Noticed about 2 weeks ago. Vibe is coming from carrier(mid shaft) bearing area. It starts up at 30 mph, fades at 40. Returns at 55 and hangs out. Not crazy about pushing beyond that. I've inspected all other bearings and u-joints and don't see any physical signs there. Everything's feels tight. Don't see any missing shaft weights. If this goes, will I be dead in the water? Zero experience with this bearing. Wondered if you guys had any thoughts.
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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same problem here... carrier bearing is shot... Looked on my uncle's 06 and it appears they have better carrier bearings than my 04.. My 04 has the square housing, whereas my uncles 06 has a round housing with LOTS of rubber in there.

Anyways... Looked on a few online mopar parts places and can't find a carrier bearing for these trucks. I don't really want to spend 200 bucks at the Stealership for the new one, but i'm gonna need one soon. Can ANYONE point us in the direction of a GOOD online mopar parts place?

Also talked to NAPA and O'Reilly and the carrier bearing is apparently a dealer only item.
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here is a link to a one piece factory driveshaft for the long wheel base trucks that has been discussed. Is another option to get rid of the bearing and all the u-joints.

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Old 04-08-2010, 07:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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carrier bearing on 2007 quad cab 6 cylinder

Forgive the newbie questions, my dad was a mechanic but I lost him a long time ago, I've got his techie mind for this stuff but I'm still learning a lot and at least so far I don't get my hands dirty that much I just argue with the dealership that keeps trying to avoid honoring the warranty on my 2007 dakota.

My truck only has 25000 miles on it (bought new so power train warranty applies for me) but so far the stealership (I like that one!) is blowing me off.

I've got a noticeable wobble in the rear end of the truck at some speeds, it's inconsistent but I seem to feel it most around 35 and then at highway speeds at times. I never had this issue till I came out one day to get in the truck and had a flat on the rear (bead broke on the tire...pretty unusual I'm told). The tire place initially thought the rim in question wa(where the tire went flat) s a bit out of true, dealership of course disagreed, blamed it on tires. I still had the stock tires, I know they never put particularly great tires on a vehicle off the showroom floor...these seemed to have plenty of tread left but the dealership was blaming the tires for the issue so I put four new decent tires on the truck since I was hearing I was going to need to anyway soon. The wobble was still present (it actually feels like a rear tire is wobbling but I know how feels can be in a car) you feel it in your butt not the steering so I'm told that "should" mean the issue is in the back of the vehicle.

Took the truck back to the tire place, they tested balance and the rims again, now they think two of the four aluminum rims is a bit off true but they moved the tires around to see if the issue would move. Issue didn't move so now we pretty much proved it isn't tires. Guy at tire place mentioned something about U-joints....(does a multipart drive shaft vehicle even have u-joints?) Mechanic started playing with the carrier bearing in the center of the drive shaft and it has easily a good two inches of play in it. I'm told it should be more like under an inch of play.

We currently think the carrier bearing or at least the rubber seat are bad...is that what a carrier bearing failure feels like? Does it feel like the rear is wobbling? I'm sure I'll get more static at the dealership again so I'm getting more than one opinion before I go back again. Is this common on Dodge Dakota? Sounds like a solid shaft is the recommended fix but it also sounds like a real PITA for that procedure and I also don't want to void my powertrain warranty with anything like that.

What can cause this? The truck only has 25000 on it, it hasn't been in a big accident, just a fender bender with just a bent front bumper that you could hardly even see, I slid sideways in the rain a few months ago (didn't accident but it was a touch close) but I can't see how that could do this. This is going to be annoying if I have to keep fixing the dumb thing every two years. A friend was telling me there are different sized bearings depending on the size of the truck (half-ton, one-ton, etc.) and thinks the dealership should install a bigger one---I know that will be a fight if it's even possible.

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thank for all the help with the center carrier bearing. the Spicer #210391-1x is a great replacement for dodge junk one that they want 180.00 plus for. you should be able to get this part for about 55.00 and to have some one install it for about 40.00. again thank to everyone for trying to find better quality parts.
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i replaced my carrier bearing last week .. worst thing ever but i got the part from the mopar parts distribution center in carrolton tx .. 10 mins away for 100 bucks hope it hold up next time is def going to be a onepeice drive shaft
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I have a 2004 Dodge Ram 3500 lifted 6'', with 37 toyo's and shred these damn center bearing carriers all the time. Pisses me off. The solution was suggested by a local 4x4 shop.

When u hit the gas, the Cummins has so much torque, (especially with my Edge Diesel tuner), that the rear diff torques the compression into the suspension. Well Since i have a 1 ton suspension, little of this is energy is released through the suspension and instead binds up in the weakest point, the frikkin Center bearing and its lame rubber carrier. Most of the issue comes with the lift, and bringing the driveline out of "straight" alignment from the tranny to the diff. The added 6 inches of lift causes the driveline to angle, thus creating a weaker point to take the torque load at the center bearing. Ideally "we" need a spring under lift and using massive spring arches to provide the desired height. They also recommended a Track bar either bolted or welded from the rear Diff to a custom built cross member to support the axle wrap from torque.

Ever see a monster truck and its massive driveline carrier support? It would employ multiple bearings instead of one to distribute the load more evenly, or to use a single solid driveline like the monster trucks do. They said they could build me something like this, but this is simply overkill.

Fortunately my waranty has covered the 3 replacements i needed previously, but now i am SOL as my warranty has expired and i need to do this myself. Anyone know what type of tools, are required? Can they be rented from a local auto-parts store like Autozone?
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Also on the center bearing i had replaced, the best heavy duty replacement you can purchase is solid rubber. My Factor carrier only had rubber in the 4 corners of the square. The 2 replaced since then have been solid rubber and held up a helluva lot longer. But when you are pulling 10,000lb trailers, not much is going to help other than a long term solution. From what i have heard this happens only with the 2 piece drive lines, (Long beds).

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Old 01-01-2011, 12:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Okay since the last time I posted up on this thread ive gone through a total of 4carrier bearings after the last one I said it and ordered the single piece aluminum 6in. Core drive shaft and thepower transfer is way betterand no more shutter or carrier bearing failure problem solved
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