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Old 09-21-2011, 09:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am currently rebuilding a 07 5.9L Cummins. I have a complete Overhaul kit priced w/ free shipping from MAHLE/Clevite for 1150.00. If you are willing and able to do the work your self, it will save you a lot of cash. Good Luck and hope everything works out for you.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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the way it looks at this point I'll do everything except the machine work. I depending on what the cylinders look like I may have to bore it and buy pistons. Won't really know what I'm in for until I get the head off I suppose.

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Old 10-07-2011, 10:21 PM   #15 (permalink)
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All this blind troubleshooting I've been doing with my Cummins is aggravating. I'm used to be able to plug in to do cylinder cutouts, pull egt's adjust fuel maps, etc... to diagnose and solve problems, and all I can do on my cummins is look at it. Sure all the mechanical stuff is similar and taking things apart is the same but with the common rail technology there is so much that you can do troubleshooting with the electronic side that I dont' have with the Cummins.
You may want to check out EFI Live. I haven't used it but it sure seems like it will give you the same tools for your Cummins as you are used to for your CATs.

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Old 10-07-2011, 10:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Efi live is pretty bad I'm getting my truck tuned this weekend and Its supposed to be the best tuner around and can do all kinds of stuff
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Old 10-09-2011, 04:40 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Oh goosh some new bern crowd here let me guess ur sources are gregory poole folks I used to work there for a few years. The c7 is a monster compared to the 6bt the truck would not hold up no built heav enough. Cat really has nothing comparable in size right now the 3116 or 26 would be the closest to fitting and even then are on the heavy side and a bit bigger. This would be a lost cause, if it is just blow by pop the head off snatch out pistons run a stone hone in there new rings and back too business. For less then 1200 bucks back up an running
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Not to mention I don't think you would touch a c7 for less then 12g
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Old 10-09-2011, 04:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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As far as fuel maps electronic technician dosent let you do that, you can do cylinder cut outs and take freeze frames to diagnose problems set trim codes for injectors but you can't change any of the fpo fl p stuff with out knowing the numbers from a cat engineer and they haven't gave that info out since all the c32 issues a few years back you can change alarm parameters but no fuel maps.
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right you are. I deal with greg poole daily... good people.

OK so the CAT C7 swap is not the best route to take, and I'll just redo the cummins. Probably pull it out in late Jan or early Feb and start the process. Hopefully I can just hone it and not have to buy new pistons.

While I'm in there I'll do a cam, and it sounds like the hamilton 181 / 210 cam is a pretty good fit and popular for these trucks, so that with pushrods, springs, and tappets, will go in. I'll get the pistons coated, and balance the rotating assembly with the stock rods. Still debating on the stock "cracked" rods vs the 24V rods so any input is appreciated. Other than that I'll put the ARP head stud kit in and get the head cleaned up and replace the freeze plugs under the valve cover with the pipe plugs. I think that should be a good bottom end to build on. I'm not looking for anything huge in the future, maybe a bigger turbo, and a smarty. Be nice to have a solid motor that could handle the 500HP / 1000 pounds of torque that my clutch is rated for.

So lets hear it, does that sound like a successful build, what am I missing? Looking at pure diesel power at the place to buy parts from any other places I should look to save time and money but keep quality up?

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Sounds like a decent build. That 500hp is nothing; your truck with just Smarty is damn near 500 at the wheels, with the cam it may be there. Haven't run mine on a dyno yet, but I expect 500 out of it
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right you are. I deal with greg poole daily... good people.

OK so the CAT C7 swap is not the best route to take, and I'll just redo the cummins. Probably pull it out in late Jan or early Feb and start the process. Hopefully I can just hone it and not have to buy new pistons.

While I'm in there I'll do a cam, and it sounds like the hamilton 181 / 210 cam is a pretty good fit and popular for these trucks, so that with pushrods, springs, and tappets, will go in. I'll get the pistons coated, and balance the rotating assembly with the stock rods. Still debating on the stock "cracked" rods vs the 24V rods so any input is appreciated. Other than that I'll put the ARP head stud kit in and get the head cleaned up and replace the freeze plugs under the valve cover with the pipe plugs. I think that should be a good bottom end to build on. I'm not looking for anything huge in the future, maybe a bigger turbo, and a smarty. Be nice to have a solid motor that could handle the 500HP / 1000 pounds of torque that my clutch is rated for.

So lets hear it, does that sound like a successful build, what am I missing? Looking at pure diesel power at the place to buy parts from any other places I should look to save time and money but keep quality up?

Dave
Might want to check out Doghouse Diesel Performance. They can give you advice on the best route to take considering your budget and needs.
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Why are you even debating putting a CAT in there, why dont you try to put a N14 cummins motor in it, that would be a sick swap.
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