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Old 02-21-2011, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bad Rings Common in the 5.9????

Ok I was on another forum site and I happened to read a thread in which one poster was talking about his truck burning oil at around 100,000 miles and consuming large amounts out of the blue. The thread posts then began to discuss how the 5.9 cummins common rails are known for #1 and #6 Piston Ring Failures... It then discussed how adding any programmer will cause this quite easily. I take good care of my truck and so did my buddy that I bought it from. It currently has 56,000 on it, so is this a major issue and what are the ways to protect it? Does a tuner like Edge or Smarty cause such a failure especially if you are not beating on it? Thanks for any and all info guys...
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ring failure common in a cummins? "LOL" which "bash cummins to make ourselves feel like we have real motors" forum did you read that from? that might be the most common problem in the common rails, but that doesnt make it a common problem.
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i believe the 05's had some bad rings due to them changing the material they were made of. also it is not super common but does happen everyso often. if you let your truck warm up to operating temp b4 beating on it then you should have no issues. people can get right foot heavy when the truck is cold and break a lot of things when the truck is still getting warm. dont baby the truck but be smart with it and it will treat you right
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LOL! I was not trying to start a war, and def wasn't bashing the truck I love so much like all of you! I read about it on the Diesel Truck Resource Site. Like I said just wondering if it really was an issue or not. The not beating on the truck till it's warm makes a bunch of sense, and I don't beat on my truck anyway, so I guess I have nothing to worry about...
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Somebody is confusing ring failures with piston failures and the true source of the problem, programmers and not understanding how they work.

It is very, very, very easy to cost yourself a lot of money with a $500 programmer. That is EXACTLY how stories like this get started.
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get rid of them tuners you will be alright
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Somebody is confusing ring failures with piston failures and the true source of the problem, programmers and not understanding how they work.

It is very, very, very easy to cost yourself a lot of money with a $500 programmer. That is EXACTLY how stories like this get started.
good point programmers lead to higher drive pressures advanced cylinder pressure too much timing, high egts, sky high rail pressures etc etc. if not used right like cerberusiam said they can definitly damage motors. but also beating on cold motors is not good. i seem to hear that the 05's do have worse rings though but that might just a hear say
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That's why I leave mine stock. I know just enuff about programmers to ruin my cummins.
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