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Fisherguy · 10-29-2009, 10:23 AM

That's not a bad idea, K&N filters are generally thought of as the worst choice for air filters.
Sorry to hear, let us know what you find out.

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Gregg · 10-29-2009, 11:08 PM

well i took off the intake tube today to see if the impeller wheel had some play in it and there and there was....

the fins are not broke on the intake side but not sure about the exhaust side and you can clearly see where the wheel has been grinding on the inside of the turbo... the fins are chewed up on the outside rim and the housing is scuffed up. I only had the truck running for a total of maybe 10 seconds after the smoke came out and heard the loud pop.

would the K/N really void my engine warranty?
I also have a magnaflow 5"tb exhaust... would that void it too?
I could put the factory intake back on no issue but I cut up the factory exhaust in a few pieces to make the disassembly process go a little bit quicker

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v10sport · 10-30-2009, 12:58 AM

They shouldnt give ya hard time for the exhaust, but they may for the K&N

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***Riley5.9*** · 10-30-2009, 01:13 AM

Im goin to say toasted turbo.. exactly same thing happened to me at work in our f550 ford.. heard kinda ping...grind...whoosh.. white smoke.. DONE! lol
There is no reason for dodge to not give ya a new turbo, but they could pull some crap like "that K&N is not stock and may have allowed dust in bllaaa blaaaa blaaa" but thats kinda a long shot. The exhaust should never be a problem, if anything, new exhaust is better for the truck!
While its in the shop if they are warrantying it, id get them to do a good once over on the motor cuz the turbo goin out, dependin on how far you drove with the white cloud, might have not been so good for internals!
Sorry for your luck dude

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Gregg · 10-30-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riley5.9

Im goin to say toasted turbo.. exactly same thing happened to me at work in our f550 ford.. heard kinda ping...grind...whoosh.. white smoke.. DONE! lol
There is no reason for dodge to not give ya a new turbo, but they could pull some crap like "that K&N is not stock and may have allowed dust in bllaaa blaaaa blaaa" but thats kinda a long shot. The exhaust should never be a problem, if anything, new exhaust is better for the truck!
While its in the shop if they are warrantying it, id get them to do a good once over on the motor cuz the turbo goin out, dependin on how far you drove with the white cloud, might have not been so good for internals!
Sorry for your luck dude

ya i guess... but its the same as putting a drop in K/N filter, same material and I was thinking that the exhaust wouldn't be a problem, just better flow and as far as how far I drove with the white smoke... maybe a 10th of a mile, just far enough to put it in neutral, shut it off and coast to the side of the road. but thanks for the input

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nh591 · 10-31-2009, 01:20 PM

the white smoke was probably raw fuel coming out the exhaust. if your turbo went, the motor was still pumping all that fuel into the cylinders with little or no air to burn it.

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Gregg · 11-02-2009, 10:33 PM

well i took it to a dodge dealership today and they said it would be covered under warranty but I would have to bring it to another dodge dealership as they are on the restricted list and cannot perform any warranty work and that I would have to put my silencer ring back on...

so I put my silencer ring back on (needs to be complete to be warrantied) and towed it to another dodge dealership and we'll see what happens tomorrow...

how long does it take to have a warranty processed... It's been a while since I've worked at a dealership and can't remember if its instant or I have a wait period... and do you think they would change the oil? it needs to be changed anyways...

I'll keep ya posted, and thanks for all the help

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Next Mods : smarty, MP-8, Issopro trans temp, boost, EGT, RP Guages, new trans

steelhead01 · 11-03-2009, 12:11 AM

get a sample of that oil that's in the engine and send it in yourself to an oil analysis lab for future engine warranty protection.
that scrapped off eaten away aluminum had to go somewhere.

then change the oil yourself before taking to second shop for warranty claim repair. they may try and claim owner failed to change oil per warranty requirements.
edit: too late, see you've hauled it to second shop. fingers crossed.

warranty processing, who knows with all the changes Chrysler has been through. i hear they are denying more claims now and making the customer fight for their rights.

missing silencer ring as warranty denial reason, what's next, dirty lug nuts?

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Last edited by steelhead01 : 11-03-2009 at 12:14 AM.

Gregg · 11-04-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhead01

get a sample of that oil that's in the engine and send it in yourself to an oil analysis lab for future engine warranty protection.
that scrapped off eaten away aluminum had to go somewhere.

then change the oil yourself before taking to second shop for warranty claim repair. they may try and claim owner failed to change oil per warranty requirements.
edit: too late, see you've hauled it to second shop. fingers crossed.

warranty processing, who knows with all the changes Chrysler has been through. i hear they are denying more claims now and making the customer fight for their rights.

missing silencer ring as warranty denial reason, what's next, dirty lug nuts?

well I heard back from them and they will be covering the turbo at no cost to me... no deductible, and they have ordered the turbo but when I spoke with the service writer she said that there isn't a turbo in the country???? but its ordered and on its way... o and they wanted the factory air-box back to but on cause they recommend that only it be used with the 5.9 engine...

so I keep calling to see if the turbo is there but not yet, and do you think sisnce I have to wait this long they would give me a loaner car till its fixed??

O and the owners manual stated I could go 7500 b/t changes... I was going to do it as soon as I got home but as it sits now its got 6-6500 on it now so its within spec according to dodge anyway?

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Last edited by Gregg : 11-04-2009 at 09:16 PM. Reason: memory lapse

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10-29-2009, 10:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
Fisherguy Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Vancouver, BC, CANADA Posts: 1,250 Thanks: 9 Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts Fisherguy's Truck Pics	That's not a bad idea, K&N filters are generally thought of as the worst choice for air filters. Sorry to hear, let us know what you find out. __________________ 06 QC 3500, Raider cap; custom rack; DiPric gauges; 40" Nelson; S&B intake; BDTD CL; Quad X2: Pac Brake PRXB/air bags with Airlift Wireless; AD 100/Liberty canister; 4 KC's, Randy Ellis light bar; SB OFE, leveled, Bilsteins, 35" Vortracs/H2's; ATS Flares

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10-29-2009, 11:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
Gregg Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Posts: 16 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Gregg's Truck Pics	well i took off the intake tube today to see if the impeller wheel had some play in it and there and there was.... the fins are not broke on the intake side but not sure about the exhaust side and you can clearly see where the wheel has been grinding on the inside of the turbo... the fins are chewed up on the outside rim and the housing is scuffed up. I only had the truck running for a total of maybe 10 seconds after the smoke came out and heard the loud pop. would the K/N really void my engine warranty? I also have a magnaflow 5"tb exhaust... would that void it too? I could put the factory intake back on no issue but I cut up the factory exhaust in a few pieces to make the disassembly process go a little bit quicker __________________ 2005 2500 QC SB auto, 50,000 miles, K/N CAI, silencer ring MIA, Magnaflow 5" TB, other than that bone stock... for now Next Mods : smarty, MP-8, Issopro trans temp, boost, EGT, RP Guages, new trans

10-30-2009, 12:58 AM	#27 (permalink)
v10sport Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 261 Thanks: 6 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts v10sport's Truck Pics	They shouldnt give ya hard time for the exhaust, but they may for the K&N __________________ 07 5.9L 2500 QC/LB 4x4. Edge J/A, Smarty TNT, AFE stage 2/ progaurd 7 filter Arson III 2G intake horn 6" lift 37 13.5 17 SS M-16 5"TBE

10-30-2009, 01:13 AM	#28 (permalink)
*Riley5.9* Never Enough TQ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SK, Canada Posts: 866 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Riley5.9's Truck Pics	Im goin to say toasted turbo.. exactly same thing happened to me at work in our f550 ford.. heard kinda ping...grind...whoosh.. white smoke.. DONE! lol There is no reason for dodge to not give ya a new turbo, but they could pull some crap like "that K&N is not stock and may have allowed dust in bllaaa blaaaa blaaa" but thats kinda a long shot. The exhaust should never be a problem, if anything, new exhaust is better for the truck! While its in the shop if they are warrantying it, id get them to do a good once over on the motor cuz the turbo goin out, dependin on how far you drove with the white cloud, might have not been so good for internals! Sorry for your luck dude __________________ 05' 3500 SRW QC SLT 4x4, II Silver 62,II 85's, II Stg 3 CP3,II Dual feed,ATS Pulse Flow,ARP studs,FASS,Dypricol Optix (x4),PPE Hot,Dr.p stg 2,Banks Technicooler,AFE Stg 2,4" dual,NADP Extreme Race trans,Triple Disk TC,Billet FP,MagHytech pan,GDP Ladder Bars,Superlift 4",BDS dual steering stabilizers,DT profab control arms,Smoked LED cab lights/3rd brake light,Line-X,20x10 Driv Blitz,35/13.50 stt's,Bushwacker Flares 1/4 mile, 13.22 @ 98.7mph on 35s!

10-31-2009, 01:20 PM	#30 (permalink)
nh591 Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SW,PA Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts nh591's Truck Pics	the white smoke was probably raw fuel coming out the exhaust. if your turbo went, the motor was still pumping all that fuel into the cylinders with little or no air to burn it. __________________ '03 2500 Quad Shortbed Laramie 235hp 48re 4.10s- 4" MBRP Pipe_Smarty_AFE Cold Air Intake_AFE Intake Horn_Edge Juice W/Attitude_Dunrite Triple Disk Converter_Valve Body Mods_Billet Input_Edge Jammer 25 Horse Nozzles

11-02-2009, 10:33 PM	#31 (permalink)
Gregg Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY Posts: 16 Thanks: 12 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Gregg's Truck Pics	well i took it to a dodge dealership today and they said it would be covered under warranty but I would have to bring it to another dodge dealership as they are on the restricted list and cannot perform any warranty work and that I would have to put my silencer ring back on... so I put my silencer ring back on (needs to be complete to be warrantied) and towed it to another dodge dealership and we'll see what happens tomorrow... how long does it take to have a warranty processed... It's been a while since I've worked at a dealership and can't remember if its instant or I have a wait period... and do you think they would change the oil? it needs to be changed anyways... I'll keep ya posted, and thanks for all the help __________________ 2005 2500 QC SB auto, 50,000 miles, K/N CAI, silencer ring MIA, Magnaflow 5" TB, other than that bone stock... for now Next Mods : smarty, MP-8, Issopro trans temp, boost, EGT, RP Guages, new trans

11-03-2009, 12:11 AM	#32 (permalink)
steelhead01 Cummins Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 189 Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 16 Posts steelhead01's Truck Pics	get a sample of that oil that's in the engine and send it in yourself to an oil analysis lab for future engine warranty protection. that scrapped off eaten away aluminum had to go somewhere. then change the oil yourself before taking to second shop for warranty claim repair. they may try and claim owner failed to change oil per warranty requirements. edit: too late, see you've hauled it to second shop. fingers crossed. warranty processing, who knows with all the changes Chrysler has been through. i hear they are denying more claims now and making the customer fight for their rights. missing silencer ring as warranty denial reason, what's next, dirty lug nuts? __________________ '05 2500 4x4 QC LB SLT NV5600 STOCK Jesus, Mr Dealer, You mean my warranty is VOID http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ph...rting_line.jpg Last edited by steelhead01 : 11-03-2009 at 12:14 AM.