Guys check your 4th injector line. STICKY!!!!! - Page 9

dieselwill · 10-28-2009, 09:41 AM

I have been working on diesels for twenty years and have seen this on all kinds if the lines are not secured. When I replaced mine about a month ago, the Lithia Dodge Dealer wanted $76, Dodge MSRP is $53, I went to Cummins and got it for $21. The line that I got was an upgrade with a rivet instead of a bolt on the support.

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fydraca2896 · 10-29-2009, 08:36 PM

I just had all new u joints and new carrier bearing replaced. Before the carrier bearing was replaced (broke almost completely off the mount) the vibration was really bad. I really thought that all of thus originally stemmed from the injector that I thought was misfiring. Well since i tightend all of them up 3,4,5,6 were all lose I know it is not the injector. I am really at a loss. I really can not afford to spend any more money this year just to diagnose a problem. Is there another thread that you guys know of dealing with these issues.

fydraca2896 · 10-29-2009, 08:46 PM

[quote]Guys, I have the replacement #4 line... do you recommend using a diesel comptaible thread sealant on both ends of the new #4 injector fuel line[quote]

I know when I was taught (years ago) everything got thread sealant. Especially the stainless stell and the aluminum components. The torque, heat and pressures on the systems would cause the threads to lock together causing them to bind up. Without the thread sealant you would never get the parts to come apart without breaking equipment. Even dry fitting to check installation was considered a "dont do".

***Silver Fox*** · 11-05-2009, 03:16 PM

Just checked mine and all were tight, but then I just bought this from a dealer who may have had it tightend.

Thanks for this thread and this web site!

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quitstrokinstartcummin · 11-07-2009, 12:38 AM

definitely going to check mine. Thanks guys.

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BR1 · 11-07-2009, 11:06 PM

just tightened up mine........3 were loose, #4 was teh worst.

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hogrider09 · 11-11-2009, 10:43 AM

great info...will check later today

Mopard · 11-11-2009, 02:02 PM

I also had the #4 fuel line fail at around 43K miles and spray diesel all over. Pulled in the driveway and even before I got out I could smell fuel. Shut the truck off and popped the hood and fuel was everywhere. Tried to restart the truck to get a quick look for the leak but the truck would not start again.
The new blue plastic clamp on my new #4 fuel line also has a torx head on the bolt.

Question ... How the heck would one ever get at the #6 fuel line tucked way back there? Is it accessible after you remove the chain lift loop/bracket?

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***JWH_03_Dodge*** · 11-11-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopard

Question ... How the heck would one ever get at the #6 fuel line tucked way back there? Is it accessible after you remove the chain lift loop/bracket?

you can get to it, its just not as nice as the rest

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Sandaholic · 11-11-2009, 02:14 PM

I checked mine a few weeks ago they were all tight. Some on my buddies '06 were loose.

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Originally Posted by hogrider09

great info...will check later today

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scj · 11-14-2009, 01:41 PM

I found out about this problem the hard way unfortunately.

My truck is at the dealer and they replaced the 4th injector line but cannot get the truck to restart.

The truck died about a mile after the engine light came on. I cranked it over to find out where the fuel was coming from then called the tow truck. It's under warranty so I let them have at it. The dealer called me and said they have been trying to restart it for over an hour with no luck.

Anyone have any tips for getting it to restart? Could there be another issue since I drove it until it died?

cummins67L · 11-15-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scj

I found out about this problem the hard way unfortunately.

My truck is at the dealer and they replaced the 4th injector line but cannot get the truck to restart.

The truck died about a mile after the engine light came on. I cranked it over to find out where the fuel was coming from then called the tow truck. It's under warranty so I let them have at it. The dealer called me and said they have been trying to restart it for over an hour with no luck.

Anyone have any tips for getting it to restart? Could there be another issue since I drove it until it died?

No you did not hurt the engine by driving it with the injector line leaking. BUT you could have caught your truck on fire!!

Sounds like the fuel may have gotten into the wiring connectors.
If they worked on it for one hour and then called you,
Better get a new dealer ,,,

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10-28-2009, 09:41 AM	#97 (permalink)
dieselwill Cummins Fan Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Midland Texas Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dieselwill's Truck Pics	I have been working on diesels for twenty years and have seen this on all kinds if the lines are not secured. When I replaced mine about a month ago, the Lithia Dodge Dealer wanted $76, Dodge MSRP is $53, I went to Cummins and got it for $21. The line that I got was an upgrade with a rivet instead of a bolt on the support. __________________ 2006 3500 Mega 4X4 Laramie 2001 2500 Quad 4X4 Laramie 1985 GMC K3500 4X4 Cummins 5spd Gear Vendors 35s. I Built this in 1996.HOOKED ON CUMMINS NOTHING STOCK

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10-29-2009, 08:36 PM	#98 (permalink)
fydraca2896 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CMCH, NJ Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts fydraca2896's Truck Pics	I just had all new u joints and new carrier bearing replaced. Before the carrier bearing was replaced (broke almost completely off the mount) the vibration was really bad. I really thought that all of thus originally stemmed from the injector that I thought was misfiring. Well since i tightend all of them up 3,4,5,6 were all lose I know it is not the injector. I am really at a loss. I really can not afford to spend any more money this year just to diagnose a problem. Is there another thread that you guys know of dealing with these issues.

10-29-2009, 08:46 PM	#99 (permalink)
fydraca2896 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CMCH, NJ Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts fydraca2896's Truck Pics	[quote]Guys, I have the replacement #4 line... do you recommend using a diesel comptaible thread sealant on both ends of the new #4 injector fuel line[quote] I know when I was taught (years ago) everything got thread sealant. Especially the stainless stell and the aluminum components. The torque, heat and pressures on the systems would cause the threads to lock together causing them to bind up. Without the thread sealant you would never get the parts to come apart without breaking equipment. Even dry fitting to check installation was considered a "dont do".

11-05-2009, 03:16 PM	#100 (permalink)
*Silver Fox* Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern Oregon Territory, Puyallup, WA Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Silver Fox's Truck Pics	Just checked mine and all were tight, but then I just bought this from a dealer who may have had it tightend. Thanks for this thread and this web site! SF- __________________ 2006, 2500 Mega Cab, Laramie, 4x4 with 6" lift and 37x13.5 Toyo Open country and stock 5.9 for now. 2005 Hayabusa with slight modifications, nuff said there. SF-

11-07-2009, 12:38 AM	#101 (permalink)
quitstrokinstartcummin Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: washington Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts quitstrokinstartcummin's Truck Pics	definitely going to check mine. Thanks guys. __________________ 05 3500 quad cab 2wd, auto. High flow 4"mbrp turbo back exhaust, baffle removed stock intake tube, cat deleted. STOCK 5.9 HO 600 series, no programmer......yet. 265/70/17 mud terrain sxt (little more bite for my 2wd) 2 1/2" daystar coil spring spacers.

11-07-2009, 11:06 PM	#102 (permalink)
BR1 Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts BR1's Truck Pics	just tightened up mine........3 were loose, #4 was teh worst. __________________ 2003 2500HD, 4x4, 6 speed H.O., quad cab, long box. H2's, 315 cooper discoverer atr's, century royale cap, mopar winterfront, herculiner bed, billet grille, magnaflow stainless muffler, putco boss bars.

11-11-2009, 10:43 AM	#103 (permalink)
hogrider09 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts hogrider09's Truck Pics	great info...will check later today

11-11-2009, 02:02 PM	#104 (permalink)
Mopard Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cottage Country,Ontario, Canada Posts: 270 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mopard's Truck Pics	I also had the #4 fuel line fail at around 43K miles and spray diesel all over. Pulled in the driveway and even before I got out I could smell fuel. Shut the truck off and popped the hood and fuel was everywhere. Tried to restart the truck to get a quick look for the leak but the truck would not start again. The new blue plastic clamp on my new #4 fuel line also has a torx head on the bolt. Question ... How the heck would one ever get at the #6 fuel line tucked way back there? Is it accessible after you remove the chain lift loop/bracket? __________________ 06 Inferno Red - Med. Slate Grey Leather / 2500 HD 4x4 RC/LB / Laramie-H pkg / 3.73 anti-spin diff / 325/610 CTD HO/ 48RE Auto / Mopar molded splash guards / Mopar vent visors / Mopar side-steps / 8-1/2' Curtis / 2" Levelling Kit (CCM Offroad) / Bilstein 5100s all 4 corners / Weathertech floor liners / Took delivery Dec 30/05.

11-14-2009, 01:41 PM	#107 (permalink)
scj Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts scj's Truck Pics	I found out about this problem the hard way unfortunately. My truck is at the dealer and they replaced the 4th injector line but cannot get the truck to restart. The truck died about a mile after the engine light came on. I cranked it over to find out where the fuel was coming from then called the tow truck. It's under warranty so I let them have at it. The dealer called me and said they have been trying to restart it for over an hour with no luck. Anyone have any tips for getting it to restart? Could there be another issue since I drove it until it died?