i need help please

silversvt · 10-25-2006, 06:55 AM

hey guys, first off let me say i love the web sight. I do not post much I just like to read but I have a problem and I know that someone on here will be able to help.

My truck is an 06 auto w/6 k miles. I bought an edge w/attude and when i installed it I felt no performance gains, talked with edge and they said it worked correctly. So I uninstalled it and bought a quadzilla and still i cannot feel a performance gain, i can see more smoke but I cannot feel a difference unless I am on the high way, but even then the gain is no much.

Sence the purches of the quad i have sold the edge to a guy w/ an 06 auto and he loves the thing, he says he can smoke the tires. The only way i can break them loose is if i stand on the brake.

I feel like the trans is slipping but I am not for sure.

my mods are 5" exhaust no cat no muffler, quadzilla intake, quad race, no silencer ring, 5" lift and 35" tires

What could be the problem? Please help

Last edited by silversvt : 10-25-2006 at 06:58 AM.

trik396 · 10-25-2006, 07:28 AM

You should feel something... not necesarily smoking the tires, but definate seat of the pants improvements. It is like night and day, so something is causing you to not get the power to the ground. Maybe it is your trans. I can tell you from experience that those big 35" tires kill your performance and mileage. But you should still feel the power. Depending on your future endeavors, a VB and Converter should be considered, at the least... Good luck...

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Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT
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silversvt · 10-25-2006, 01:40 PM

i had the programers on before the lift, when I had stock tries.

do you guys think i need a pusher pump, or converter first

**Diesel Dummy** · 10-25-2006, 02:53 PM

do the 06's tap yhe wire or no...

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trik396 · 10-25-2006, 03:42 PM

If your not feeling any power from a box or programmer then something is wrong. I don't know if anyone knows how to check if the trans is slipping that badly, but I'd get it checked out somehow. And a better fuel pump couldn't hurt, and would only help in the future.

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2005 DodgeRam2500 CTD/ 4x4/ BigHorn/ Autometer/AmsoilBypass/AemBruteforce
Trans by Goerend/ Walbro392custom fuel system/CAT2micfuelfilters/IISilver64/BanksIC
Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT
617hp 1200+trq

KOREChasewFoxShox/Carli&FoxDualSteeringStabilizer/ NittoTerras285's
3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead...

Dodgezilla · 10-25-2006, 04:15 PM

Even if the trans was slipping you would still feel the power. Are you absolutely sure that you are connecting them right? If I turn my TST on 1/0 which is just a bit of timing I can feel a difference in power.

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TrueValue Truck · 10-25-2006, 04:29 PM

Something is wrong.......I have the Xzillaraider 100hp box....yours is 130hp.
It's like night and day with the 60hp and 100hp setting. Sounds like the box isn't communicating with the truck...be it a bad connection or hooked up wrong...mabe even a problem with the truck map sensor wireing.....mabe quad can jump in here with some suggestions.

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silversvt · 10-25-2006, 04:59 PM

i live close to the quad shop went up there, had him look at it and he said it was working correctly. I think my converter is slipping bad, let me tell you why, at a stop if I floor it the boost jumps to 38# egt jumps to 700 and rpm's shoot up to 3000- 3100 and stay there unitll my trucks speed catches up enough to shift gears, once the tranns shifts into 2 nd rmps drop to around 2200 and then fly to 3100 and stay there untill my truck speed catches up........so on and so forth

CTD610 · 10-25-2006, 05:01 PM

Sounds like converter problems to me. Probably way over due for some beef ups.

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Dodgezilla · 10-25-2006, 05:10 PM

6000 miles????? I'd pull any box off that truck and get it to the dealer if that's the problem.

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Looking for my next truck. Do you have it?

trik396 · 10-25-2006, 07:17 PM

Thats what I'm thinking... Plus earlier he said he was making smoke, so he's getting the extra fueling from the box, but the power is not making it to the ground.... Tranny time...

__________________
2005 DodgeRam2500 CTD/ 4x4/ BigHorn/ Autometer/AmsoilBypass/AemBruteforce
Trans by Goerend/ Walbro392custom fuel system/CAT2micfuelfilters/IISilver64/BanksIC
Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT
617hp 1200+trq

KOREChasewFoxShox/Carli&FoxDualSteeringStabilizer/ NittoTerras285's
3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead...

Nuttymopar · 10-26-2006, 06:58 AM

Or tap the #7 wire on the ROUND plug for the tranny (if the same for 06), run it to a switch and then to a 33 ohm resistor and then to ground. That will lock up the TC at the push of the button. That would get the power to the ground if you thought it was slipping.

BUT, if it is slipping, not sure how long that game would last as you would probably cook your TC.

Pull the box, head to dealer to have checked out.

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2005 2500, Auto, TC lockup switch, RokkTech sensor, RokkTech muffler, Gutted chrome torque tube, Ram Snorkel on air box, Mopar cold weather kit. Pro Comp Extreme A/T 35's.

10-25-2006, 06:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
silversvt Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6 silversvt's Truck Pics	i need help please hey guys, first off let me say i love the web sight. I do not post much I just like to read but I have a problem and I know that someone on here will be able to help. My truck is an 06 auto w/6 k miles. I bought an edge w/attude and when i installed it I felt no performance gains, talked with edge and they said it worked correctly. So I uninstalled it and bought a quadzilla and still i cannot feel a performance gain, i can see more smoke but I cannot feel a difference unless I am on the high way, but even then the gain is no much. Sence the purches of the quad i have sold the edge to a guy w/ an 06 auto and he loves the thing, he says he can smoke the tires. The only way i can break them loose is if i stand on the brake. I feel like the trans is slipping but I am not for sure. my mods are 5" exhaust no cat no muffler, quadzilla intake, quad race, no silencer ring, 5" lift and 35" tires What could be the problem? Please help Last edited by silversvt : 10-25-2006 at 06:58 AM.

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10-25-2006, 07:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
trik396 Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,388 trik396's Truck Pics	You should feel something... not necesarily smoking the tires, but definate seat of the pants improvements. It is like night and day, so something is causing you to not get the power to the ground. Maybe it is your trans. I can tell you from experience that those big 35" tires kill your performance and mileage. But you should still feel the power. Depending on your future endeavors, a VB and Converter should be considered, at the least... Good luck... __________________ 2005 DodgeRam2500 CTD/ 4x4/ BigHorn/ Autometer/AmsoilBypass/AemBruteforce Trans by Goerend/ Walbro392custom fuel system/CAT2micfuelfilters/IISilver64/BanksIC Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT 617hp 1200+trq KOREChasewFoxShox/Carli&FoxDualSteeringStabilizer/ NittoTerras285's 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead...

10-25-2006, 01:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
silversvt Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6 silversvt's Truck Pics	i had the programers on before the lift, when I had stock tries. do you guys think i need a pusher pump, or converter first

10-25-2006, 02:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Diesel Dummy Upstate Diesel Performance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central NY in the woods!! Posts: 1,397 Diesel Dummy's Truck Pics	do the 06's tap yhe wire or no... __________________ If you need it we sell it! if you think you need it, we sell it! Even if you don't think you need it, but want it, we sell it! Thats it. Upstate Bombers Site

10-25-2006, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
trik396 Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,388 trik396's Truck Pics	If your not feeling any power from a box or programmer then something is wrong. I don't know if anyone knows how to check if the trans is slipping that badly, but I'd get it checked out somehow. And a better fuel pump couldn't hurt, and would only help in the future. __________________ 2005 DodgeRam2500 CTD/ 4x4/ BigHorn/ Autometer/AmsoilBypass/AemBruteforce Trans by Goerend/ Walbro392custom fuel system/CAT2micfuelfilters/IISilver64/BanksIC Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT 617hp 1200+trq KOREChasewFoxShox/Carli&FoxDualSteeringStabilizer/ NittoTerras285's 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead...

10-25-2006, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dodgezilla Diesel Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,458 Dodgezilla's Truck Pics	Even if the trans was slipping you would still feel the power. Are you absolutely sure that you are connecting them right? If I turn my TST on 1/0 which is just a bit of timing I can feel a difference in power. __________________ SOLD!!! 08 Ram 2500 Mega 4x4,68RE,6.7,Loaded Laramie,SRT10 hood,Sunroof,DVD,Nitto 285s,Polished Alloys,Fogzilla,Rear Spoiler,MOPAR Grill Guard,H&S StageII,AFE Drop-In Looking for my next truck. Do you have it?

10-25-2006, 04:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
TrueValue Truck Tech Specialist/Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Caldwell,Ohio Posts: 3,556 TrueValue Truck's Truck Pics	Something is wrong.......I have the Xzillaraider 100hp box....yours is 130hp. It's like night and day with the 60hp and 100hp setting. Sounds like the box isn't communicating with the truck...be it a bad connection or hooked up wrong...mabe even a problem with the truck map sensor wireing.....mabe quad can jump in here with some suggestions. __________________ Caldwellfire.com 06 3500 SRW MC ,Smarty REVO,X2 Race stack, Commander,CFM, Monster Air COI,AFE Torque tube,FASS 150 HPFP LP,Muffler delete,Tipple disc Converter and VB ,ProComp 2" leveling kit,Timbren's,Reese Class V Tow Beast Ohio Coal Rollers *Cumminsforum.com*

10-25-2006, 04:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
silversvt Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6 silversvt's Truck Pics	i live close to the quad shop went up there, had him look at it and he said it was working correctly. I think my converter is slipping bad, let me tell you why, at a stop if I floor it the boost jumps to 38# egt jumps to 700 and rpm's shoot up to 3000- 3100 and stay there unitll my trucks speed catches up enough to shift gears, once the tranns shifts into 2 nd rmps drop to around 2200 and then fly to 3100 and stay there untill my truck speed catches up........so on and so forth

10-25-2006, 05:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
CTD610 COAL CRACKER Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coal Region of PA Posts: 1,026 CTD610's Truck Pics	Sounds like converter problems to me. Probably way over due for some beef ups. __________________ 2006 RAM 2500 QC SLT 4X4 - THUNDER ROAD PKG - *CTD - 6spd* - AEM Brute Force CAI-HURST T Handle Old Truck: 2001 Silverado 2500 HD 4X4 Duramax/Allison IBEW 1600 .................................................. .....................................

10-25-2006, 05:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dodgezilla Diesel Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,458 Dodgezilla's Truck Pics	6000 miles????? I'd pull any box off that truck and get it to the dealer if that's the problem. __________________ SOLD!!! 08 Ram 2500 Mega 4x4,68RE,6.7,Loaded Laramie,SRT10 hood,Sunroof,DVD,Nitto 285s,Polished Alloys,Fogzilla,Rear Spoiler,MOPAR Grill Guard,H&S StageII,AFE Drop-In Looking for my next truck. Do you have it?

10-25-2006, 07:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
trik396 Diesel Head Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,388 trik396's Truck Pics	Thats what I'm thinking... Plus earlier he said he was making smoke, so he's getting the extra fueling from the box, but the power is not making it to the ground.... Tranny time... __________________ 2005 DodgeRam2500 CTD/ 4x4/ BigHorn/ Autometer/AmsoilBypass/AemBruteforce Trans by Goerend/ Walbro392custom fuel system/CAT2micfuelfilters/IISilver64/BanksIC Projector HID's/DiablosportPredator/VanAaken3.2/QuadsXZT 617hp 1200+trq KOREChasewFoxShox/Carli&FoxDualSteeringStabilizer/ NittoTerras285's 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead...

10-26-2006, 06:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
Nuttymopar Cummins Nut Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East Montpelier, VT Posts: 378 Nuttymopar's Truck Pics	Or tap the #7 wire on the ROUND plug for the tranny (if the same for 06), run it to a switch and then to a 33 ohm resistor and then to ground. That will lock up the TC at the push of the button. That would get the power to the ground if you thought it was slipping. BUT, if it is slipping, not sure how long that game would last as you would probably cook your TC. Pull the box, head to dealer to have checked out. __________________ Scott 2005 2500, Auto, TC lockup switch, RokkTech sensor, RokkTech muffler, Gutted chrome torque tube, Ram Snorkel on air box, Mopar cold weather kit. Pro Comp Extreme A/T 35's.