TST and BDDL

[Cummins600]

Well after getting a few miles on the new Goerend tranny I think I have broken it in pretty good. I decided to go ahead and download the BDDL and the use the TST. I put the BDDL on "Tow" and left the TST on HP=1/TQ=0. I started on my way to Indianapolis and noticed that every time I went up a hill with the cruise on the truck would surge when it topped out the hill. It felt like I was hitting the rev limiter. I know it was cutting back since it was going over the set cruise speed, but it did it every time over the 77 mile trip. I ended up turning the TST to 0/0 and it was better, but still occured. So I know the issues were with the BDDL. No codes or anything. I guess I am curious if any of you guys have noticed this driveability issue with this set-up.
I like the BDDL for off the line, but at times I think it is a little aggressive. I have considered trying some different modules/ programmers to see what they do. Since I drive the truck daily on the highway I use the cruise a lot, so the surge issue is a little of a concern. Any suggestions of what works great as a stack with the TST that will give me similar off the line power? MP-8, Quadzilla, Edge, Smarty, etc???

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Bryan
2004.5 Cummins HO CCSB 4X4 SLT, TST PMCR, BDDL, HTB2 62/14 Turbo, Goerend Full Billet Trans w/ Triple disk converter, FASS 95 GPH, Amsoil 4090 w/ K&N intake, Magna Flow 4" SS Exhaust, MBRP 5" SS tip, Smittybuilt SS Nerf Bars, Westin SS Grille Guard, Di-Pricol Optix Boost, Trans, Pyro, and Fuel Gauges, Tuff Country 4.5" Lift, Eagle 178 18x9 rims w/ 35/12.50/18 Toyo Open Country MT's, Bushwacker Extend-a-Fender Flares :thumbsup

[Cummins600]

So do I take it that no one else has this problem with the Bullydog?
I had also heard that the Bullydog being downloaded and removed and then using another downloader can cause problems. I was looking for some sort of module suggestion you guys have tried that wake these trucks up down low, but still work well with the TST.

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Bryan
2004.5 Cummins HO CCSB 4X4 SLT, TST PMCR, BDDL, HTB2 62/14 Turbo, Goerend Full Billet Trans w/ Triple disk converter, FASS 95 GPH, Amsoil 4090 w/ K&N intake, Magna Flow 4" SS Exhaust, MBRP 5" SS tip, Smittybuilt SS Nerf Bars, Westin SS Grille Guard, Di-Pricol Optix Boost, Trans, Pyro, and Fuel Gauges, Tuff Country 4.5" Lift, Eagle 178 18x9 rims w/ 35/12.50/18 Toyo Open Country MT's, Bushwacker Extend-a-Fender Flares :thumbsup

[Luken]

I dont have an answer but I've had good luck with the tst/bully dog stack.

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'03 4x4 3500 Quad DRW

[973604x4]

I don't have an answer either but i love my TS MP8 with my Hot Juice.

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[Cummins600]

I have been thinking of the TS Performance MP-8. Maybe on a low setting I wouldn't have any problems and get a little more on the bottom end. I wonder what the Van Aiken or Edge EZ would do?

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Bryan
2004.5 Cummins HO CCSB 4X4 SLT, TST PMCR, BDDL, HTB2 62/14 Turbo, Goerend Full Billet Trans w/ Triple disk converter, FASS 95 GPH, Amsoil 4090 w/ K&N intake, Magna Flow 4" SS Exhaust, MBRP 5" SS tip, Smittybuilt SS Nerf Bars, Westin SS Grille Guard, Di-Pricol Optix Boost, Trans, Pyro, and Fuel Gauges, Tuff Country 4.5" Lift, Eagle 178 18x9 rims w/ 35/12.50/18 Toyo Open Country MT's, Bushwacker Extend-a-Fender Flares :thumbsup

[RDyson]

I have the TST/EZ stack on mine. The EZ does give me the surge with the cruise on when below 70 mph. Running 75-80 I don't notice it. Mine is an 03 with the vacuum controlled cruise control. I had not heard of the newer ones having a problem with the EZ.

Randy

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03 SO/Auto, QC/4X4, TST/Smarty, Boost/Fuel/Pyro/Rail Pressure, SPS-62, Goerend, Amsoil 4510, Walbro, Arson CP3 Kit, GDP Power-Flo, Grid Eliminator, Fuel Tank Vent Mod, Donaldson 51", Flux 1's, ARP, 605/1172, 13.16@108.2

[Dodgezilla]

I think you can stack a VA C3.1 with it but not a C3.2. It's a duration box and the TST already does duration.

I have just the TST on my truck right now and don't like it at all. Since installing the new turbo it takes a lot of throttle before the TST starts fueling. Once it kicks in it is brutal and the RPMs shoot up to redline in an instant. I hit 3500rpm yesterday and I was only on level 2/2!!!! I'm going to put my MP8 back on and hopefully that will give me my bottom end back and make it so I don't need so much pedal to make this thing move. I had both boxes on before the turbo install and the only issue then was lack of fuel. I'll be needing a better LP soon if I plan on running both boxes......

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Looking for my next truck. Do you have it?

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Last edited by Dodgezilla : 10-24-2006 at 11:35 AM.

[BodieArmstrong]

If you want some real low end power, get a Smarty:thumbsup

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2005 Dodge 4x4 dually G56
AEM intake, Quadzilla boostfooler
Smarty, Edge EZ, Roktek sensor
Autometer gauges, BD low FP light w/Autometer warning light
Stainless steel fuel system W/ FASS 150, and Big Fuel kit 2 micron. waiting..............
c'MON clutch....
Here come the twins....

GOT SMOKE???
http://cumminsforum.vidiac.com/video...5200d341f1.htm

Heres a quick video of my "mud drag truck"600+hp:thumbsup
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2000 Dodge 2500 4x4
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port polish/ shaved heads MSD, Borla, Edelbrock, Jet, Hypertech, DVD, Xbox, PS2, air bag suspension.
Custom trans by John Gobel w/2200 stall
Flames, ect ect ect

[Dunks Performance]

for drivability I would use a flash pack. I did a lot of towing with fp on performance and tst on timing only. This worked awesome with no smoke and great low end power even with my 66. The BD I feel is gaining about 30hp but i give up a lot of drivability and the damn thing smokes like a dirty bastard.

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[farmboysdiesel]

Several guys around here are running the MP8 and the Smarty stacked with the TST and have had great results and they've got some really good running trucks. It's very impressive what the MP8 and the Smarty do as far as smoothing the TST out. No experience with the Bully Dog/TST stack though.

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[Cummins600]

Well, when looking around the MP-8 is less of an expense....so I might just run that one and keep it on low settings (except if I want to play) since it is supposedly fuel pressure. I know that some guys have even run a BDDL, TST, and MP-8 stack...but I don't think the factory turbo would llike that at all. Thanks for all the replies and I will let you all know what I decide and how it works. Any other suggestions...throw them at me!!

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Bryan
2004.5 Cummins HO CCSB 4X4 SLT, TST PMCR, BDDL, HTB2 62/14 Turbo, Goerend Full Billet Trans w/ Triple disk converter, FASS 95 GPH, Amsoil 4090 w/ K&N intake, Magna Flow 4" SS Exhaust, MBRP 5" SS tip, Smittybuilt SS Nerf Bars, Westin SS Grille Guard, Di-Pricol Optix Boost, Trans, Pyro, and Fuel Gauges, Tuff Country 4.5" Lift, Eagle 178 18x9 rims w/ 35/12.50/18 Toyo Open Country MT's, Bushwacker Extend-a-Fender Flares :thumbsup