03 to 04.5 turbo swap

ModManiac · 10-08-2008, 09:19 PM

Im thinking of buying a local turbo with 90k on it off a 04.5 truck for 250 bucks, do you guys think this is a good deal? Have any of you guys experienced any hp gains by doing this swap and cooler egt's? Thanks!

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rufushusky · 10-09-2008, 10:32 AM

You will need a different exhaust eblow and I don't know but you may need a different wastegate controller since the 04.5 are purely electrical...

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DUKCALN · 10-10-2008, 10:54 AM

There are a few post about that and its a good choice. Do the swap its a tad bigger turbo and has netted some people who did the swap 45hp or more. You will like it and for the mon ey, its a good thing to do

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BBRam · 10-10-2008, 10:56 AM

Any idea what you would do about the wastegate?

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Semicrazy · 10-10-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BBRam

Any idea what you would do about the wastegate?

I believe when I searched this awhile ago that you could swap the electrical control to the mechanical set up.

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DUKCALN · 10-10-2008, 01:55 PM

That's correct. Search for it and you will find it will be a easy swap.

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SteveinAK · 10-10-2008, 05:29 PM

I don't think you need another elbow. It should clamp to the '03's elbow. Most don't tho, because the '03's elbow necks down to 3.5" where an '04.5 has a 4" elbow.

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10-08-2008, 09:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
ModManiac Cummins Fan Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 57 ModManiac's Truck Pics	03 to 04.5 turbo swap Im thinking of buying a local turbo with 90k on it off a 04.5 truck for 250 bucks, do you guys think this is a good deal? Have any of you guys experienced any hp gains by doing this swap and cooler egt's? Thanks! __________________ 2003 CTD 6speed K&N cai, MUFF MIA, Silencer ring lost, DiabloSport Predator, TS performance MP-8, Air Dog 150, HBS 2" Leveling kit, Valair Full Ceramic Single.

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10-09-2008, 10:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
rufushusky Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The People's republic of Massachusetts Posts: 4,105 rufushusky's Truck Pics	You will need a different exhaust eblow and I don't know but you may need a different wastegate controller since the 04.5 are purely electrical... __________________ Dennis 04.5 Ram 2500 Reg Cab 4x4 5.9, 48re, AEM, Smarty, TS Ramifier, Banks High Ram,FASS HPFP, Boost/pyro/trans/FP/RP gauges, 5" Exhaust, Cat 2 micron fuel filter, Amsoil Bypass Check out: Rig of the Month! http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/rig-month/

10-10-2008, 10:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
DUKCALN Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 517 DUKCALN's Truck Pics	There are a few post about that and its a good choice. Do the swap its a tad bigger turbo and has netted some people who did the swap 45hp or more. You will like it and for the mon ey, its a good thing to do __________________ 03 SO,BD R-700 TWINS,SMARTY TNT/MP-8,QUAD RPG,ARP STUDS,BANKS COOLER,WATER/METH,CFM+,GRID DELETE,II STAGE 2,II DUAL FEED,DDP 90's,FASS,SUN COAST EXT TRANS KIT,BD FLEX,BD VB,TCS TQ,LOCK-UP, 37's 4:10's, 9/27/08 649RWHP @ LCD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecTURtRsEI

10-10-2008, 10:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
BBRam Super Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chelsea MI Posts: 16,462 BBRam's Truck Pics	Any idea what you would do about the wastegate? __________________ 03-3500, DRW, QC, 4x4, DTT Trans, Mag-Hytec, R700 BD Twins, BD IC Boots, BD Billet Flexplate, Lockup Switch, SMARTY TNT-R BETA/TS MP-8, Eliminator Fuel System, Floor It Stage 3 CP3 & Rail Cap, BIG Stix's by FTE, ARP Head Stud's, Springs, Fluidampr, ATS ARC-FLOW, AFE, Boost, Drive Pressure, Pyro, Fuel Pressure, Tran's Temp, Rail Pressure Gauge, GDP Ladder Bars, GrandRock 7" Miters. Old #'s (R/T .021, 60' 1.76, 1/4 ET 13.14 @ 100.45 mph)

10-10-2008, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
DUKCALN Diesel Freak Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 517 DUKCALN's Truck Pics	That's correct. Search for it and you will find it will be a easy swap. __________________ 03 SO,BD R-700 TWINS,SMARTY TNT/MP-8,QUAD RPG,ARP STUDS,BANKS COOLER,WATER/METH,CFM+,GRID DELETE,II STAGE 2,II DUAL FEED,DDP 90's,FASS,SUN COAST EXT TRANS KIT,BD FLEX,BD VB,TCS TQ,LOCK-UP, 37's 4:10's, 9/27/08 649RWHP @ LCD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecTURtRsEI

10-10-2008, 05:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
SteveinAK Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mountain Home, Idaho Posts: 229 SteveinAK's Truck Pics	I don't think you need another elbow. It should clamp to the '03's elbow. Most don't tho, because the '03's elbow necks down to 3.5" where an '04.5 has a 4" elbow. __________________ -Steve 2003 SO CTD 3500 SLT QC SRW 4x4, NV4500 5-speed w/ Fast Coolers, Donaldson muffler, Commander w/ Xzillaraider, S&B Intake, Kore leveling, BD E-Brake, Hellwig Sway-Bar, ATS Arc-Flow, ATS exhaust manifold, HE351 turbo and Glacier GFS-392.