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Simple Guide to Upgrading your 48re Transmission!!!

This post is to help Anyone new to Upgrading their transmission, 48RE.

Any Questions About Specifics on a company, Product or Reviews Please try the Search function, Or Google search First Before Posting. This is not intended to Sell Any one Product or Company.

Ok down to business....

The 48RE Came in two versions, in late 04-05 went from a Throttle valve Cable. To a Electronic Servo Valve Actuator (TTVA).

More on the Thottle Valve and basic workings of a 48RE go to.

Go to google search type in [ all about the 48re ] "will not let me paste the url."

The 48RE is based off all previous 4 Speed autos from Chrysler. The 8 Stands for Torque Capacity. So Lets just say you have a 47RE. Essentially You can upgrade to 48RE internals.
The gas and Diesel versions are Different. Converters change And valve Bodies are designed for the different RPM Bands.


Ruff Guide To power Capacities of a 48RE (note some people can get more or less pending on driving style, upgrades Torque management from their Programmer and upgrades)

Based on a like new Transmission. Crank HorsePower

-250HP to 350hp Stock Transmission

-350hp to 400hp At the Very least a Shift kit.

-400hp to 450hp Billet Converter, Aftermarket Valve body And Heavy duty Flex plate.

-450hp to 500hp Triple Disk Converter, Aftermarket Valve body, Heavy Duty Flex Plate/Billet. (Optional) Higher Ratio Band lever, Heavy duty /Billet Strut , anchor, Replace plastic servos, Stronger Âľ spring.

-500hp to 650hp All Previous Items , Full Rebuild With added clutches and a Billet input.

-650hp+ Full billet!!!! = Second Mortgage

Now There are many companies To chose from to get parts and to rebuild your tranny.

This thread is not to Sway anyone towards a single company.

Ats, BD, Garmon Diesel, Georend, PATC, Suncoast . Are some Examples.

All These companies Have Good Reputations, And do Quality work. Most of them Also sell individual parts. Best to choose one closest to where you live.
Now with the Upgrades…..

Shift kit:

Great addition to a stock like truck. Gets rid of Cummins Attempt to Please Everyone. Increases line pressure, Firmer shifts. And pending on kit Better replacement Valves.

Disadvantages- Not for the Backyard Mechanic. If not installed correctly can Seriously damage you Transmission. Tuning It involves Gauges and Repeated Draining of fluid And removing the pan.
You can Purchase Extra Valves That are not included in the kit.

Valve Body:
Again Many companies Rebuild these.

Advantages- Better firmer shifts, Can be tuned to you truck, May be able to lock up in lower gears. Fluid circulation in Park. Preassembled and tested to spec. Most likely New electronics. Usually no Adjusting is required. Less downtime. Warranty!!!

Disadvantages- Virtually none. Higher in Price.

Suncoast Also Makes Replacment Valve Body.
Has A standalone Controller, Fully Programmable. Adds the ability to control shift points, TC lock, and line pressure based on boost, throttle position, speed, etc [Thanks monkeybrain]

Sun Coast Diesel Transmissions-Dodge E618 2003 - 2007 Valve Body | Catalog Products | Sun Coast Diesel Transmissions


Transmission Pan:


There are several Companies The make these, Including Mopar. You Don’t need the most expensive. Just extra Capacity and a Place to Install a Sensor. I highly Recommend one Even in Stock trim.

Internal parts:

There is a whole list of billet or performance upgrades for you internals. Here is a website that will explain, and give you some examples. Common parts to fail is the Band strut , Servo Leakage.

48RE, 47RE, Stall Converters, Performance Transmissions and Parts from PATC

Billet Converter And Flex plate:

Pending On Future Upgrades, Is which way you should go. If just stock dependability is what your after a Single Disk Billet is way to go, A lot cheaper than triple.
If a triple disk Is what your after Then I highly suggest a Heavy duty/Billet flex plate as well. The stock Flex plate will not handle much more torque than factory(bolt holes stretch.) Many companies produce these.
Several 5 DISK converters are out their too, but not necessary unless your running a full race transmission.

Note: if you go cheaper than you may be wasting money. Example (personal) I bought a single disk billet. And a year later after adding a few performance parts. I ended up buying a triple with my rebuild.

Rebuild Kits:

Again Many companies offer these, This is not for your Back yard Mechanics they require Special tools. Great way to get one rebuilt locally Cheaper.

May include- Alto Red Eagle clutches and Kolene steels plus a direct clutch PowerPack, high capacity 5 clutch direct clutch drum, a Fairbanks TransAction Kit, performance 3-4 accumulator spring for a firmer shift into overdrive, high performance low / reverse servo, cast aluminum accumulator piston, performance intermediate servo cover, Mopar 5 to 1 intermediate band apply lever (4.2 gas) giving an extra 31% torque holding capacity in second gear on diesel models, extreme duty brass impregnated carbon fiber flex band and a heavy duty intermediate band strut. A special manual valve allows converter fluid charge in park. It has the stronger Mega Spring for overdrive direct clutch apply with more holding power in reverse, 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Courtesy of PATC.

Billet Shafts:

As before Several Companies produce them. This will be the most expensive part they range from *650+ a piece.

Input- Three styles to choose from, Two Piece, One Piece and oversized. Only Billet input is needed to 650hp, Unless you tow heavy or race.

Intermediate- Standard and oversized, Stock is good to 650hp (unless racing)

Output- Standard and oversized. This one is hit or miss usually Stock is good to 650hp. But wheel hop, Really heavy towing and racing. Can break them earlier than 650hp

Electronics:

Three things may be addressed-

Lockup- You can wire a switch to ground the lockup circuit.(will stall truck out and throw a code if you don’t switch off when slowing down to a stop). Or you can buy a module that will unlock and lock you converter automatically. Your Able to also program it for Exhaust brake and gear and lockup speed.

Kickdown- ONLY FOR 48RE’s WITH ELECTRONIC KICKDOWN! Note: Most 04.5’s Dont have electronic Throttle Valve control.

Example TS Shift master.
• The SHIFT MASTER offers plug and Play technology for 2004.5 - 2007 Dodge Diesel trucks
• The SHIFT MASTER offers three settings that help with early shifting, flaring and gear hunting
• The improved shifting performance adds longevity to your Dodge diesel transmission!
• In Cab adjustable
• Easy Installation

-Stand alone controller- (refer to Valve body, Suncoast)


Paint:
Sometimes a Trademark to Companies transmissions.

Cooler, filters and Gauges:

Gauge- I would recommend everyone get a Trans Temp gauge at least.

Cooler- If you tow Will help out a lot. Some kits come with fans.

Filters- Stock filters Are only made to filter out Big Debris. Longer trans fluid life with remote mount external.

Fluids

There is serveral types of oil you may use. Basic is Chrysler ATF +4. Dealer brand i believe Is a semi synthetic, I recommend going to a full synthetic. Several Brands claim Better everything. But remember the more additives the worse it is for your tranny. If running higher horsepower or towing heavy. Dont wait till 50k to change it, And Always use a new filter when changing fluids.

Inspection:

Fluid change is the easiest way to inspect the condition of your transmission.

Good way to inspect the tranny at home Is while replacing the Converter and have the valvbody out. is unbolt the Pump and pull out first drum, inspect the clutches and steels. Look for Heat damage, Wear on clutches, Ect... Also check that band as well. Basic tools and just make sure you note how it came out. And follow a Service manual. There’s one floating around i believe around here.



Thanks Everyone For your time reading this.(I was bored at work) If you still have a question about something not addressed. And have also researched thoroughly then feel free to post. Great people on here.

If anyone has Any suggestions or corrected info (not just personal) Just PM me and ill edit this.

Please do not post and argue about companies and what can handle more or less. This is just a Rough guide To make easier than searching through hundreds of posts. Everyone one’s truck is different.
 
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Great post bud, thanks for taking the time to do that. That's good stuff. Should be a sticky.:thumbsup:
 
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Thanks!! This Is just a Rough Guide to get everyone started. Keeps them from spending time reading through tons of posts to find out simple info. This way you can go straight to research on a particular Part or Company.

Now Im trying to keep everything even. But yes some parts are better than others. And some companies have better prices than others. ect...

All the figures are just estimated. They can go lower or higher pending on tons of Variables. Like Driving style, Milage, Racing or pulling, Towing and just plain Luck!

So If anyone still has problems or cant find anything by searching (google helps) then make a new thread by all means. This Thread just helps New people to the 48re have some sort of direction and unbiassed Opinion. Plus some people can be harsh To others :buttkick:
 
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if your luck is like mine you will find plenty after you have already taken it to the "wrong" one & wasted countless time & money......

i`m just saying it could happen i guess......:hehe:




Great writ-up Sandboarder....& Thanks agin for all your time with my issues.
 
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Very comprehensive guide. Should generate a lot of questions. :hehe:

Need to fix a couple things:

Kickdown- ONLY FOR 48RE’s WITH ELECTRONIC KICKDOWN! Note: Not all 04.5’s have electronic kick down.
No 48RE has an electronic kick down. All the shifting except OD is hydraulic. Kickdown or 2nd gear, is still hydraulic. What I think your talking about is the TTVA motor to control throttle valve pressure. Thats what the shift enhancers connect to.

The TS and DTT shift enhansers ONLY work on 05-07 trucks. There is no TTVA motor on an 04.5 to hook it to. Yes, all the web sites are wrong cuz they did a cut and paste and nobody checked for correct years. :doh: The TTVA motor started on MY05 which started delivering Aug of 2004. Doesn't mean its an 04.5 though. ;)
 
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100% correct thanks Now to make it simple hmm.... Appreciate the info.

Without going into much detail "cause trying to keep it simple" someone have a article right out of service manual i think but cant post the link but its easy to get to.

Lately ive been messing with allisons and thats a whole lot different.
 
#11 ·
Awesome write up! :thumbsup:

I have spent days trying to research what I may or may not need for the setup I want to run when I get back stateside. With the way you broke down the HP numbers though, it almost seems like I need to just do a full tranny anyways and just be done with pondering different ideas.

I had an 07 before and never got around to the transmission then got rid of the truck, so this will be all new territory for me when I get back and find me either an 06 or another 07.

Hopefully I will have it figured out by then...geez transmissions are so expensive :shock:

Thanks!
 
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If someone can help me out. I have heard that if you get a performance transmission (I am looking at the DTT tranny) the shift will be so hard that you will nearly break your neck every time it shifts and will be unsuitable as a daily driver. Can someone with a built tranny (especially if you have a DTT tranny) I would greatly appreciate your impression/opinion. Thank you in advance.
 
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My ATS unit usually shifts firmer than stock but NOT offensive or rough. It's just a quicker and to the point shift. With the exception of a shift into OD with good kick in the pants ,only after i have flogged ( read RACED,TOWED AGGRESSIVLY)the truck and just for 1 shift. I was told it happens because these trannies are computer controled and the computer tries to adj the trans to the conditions. That me turning the edge up and down, is also confusing to the computer. The thing hardeat to get use to is the tightness of the tq converter. The way the truck takes off when you let off the brake.


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heres a tranny question.

sometimes when I accelerate hard from a complete stop for about 2 seconds then let off I hear a hard clunk in the tranny. it only happens before it shifts into 2nd gear.. like right before it shifts into second gear.

it sounds like its a centrifugal clutch, and things in there are just starting to open/spread to shift gears when I let off the throttle, and then it all comes slamming shut. thats what it sounds/feels like. sometimes its smoother if I just let it shift into 2nd gear before I let off.. but sometimes thats not possible. any advice or concerns or recommendations? thanks!
 
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That really rude shift harshness is mainly due to a lot of the trans builders opening up the fluid passages much larger than is really needed. Some guys like the hard shift.... I personally thought all performance trans shifted like that until I got my new Garmon trans. Fast, silky smooth shifts all day long.
 
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This is really good info, but I have been confused, maybe someone can help clear things up with me. I have a 2003 SO motor (235 hp) or whatever it is. From what I have been told those came with a 47re tranny. I have the factory build sheet and it says on it twice that it has the 48re trans. But according to everyone those only came with the HO (305 hp) motors. I was also told that its a 03 thing and that its a 48re casting with 47re internals and computer. Anybody know anthing about this? Would help when its time to rebuild mine. Thanks
 
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In '03,
the 47re was used in the 1st part of the production run. +/- until the HO was started in Jan with the 48re.
47re was used until they "ran out" then 48re was used in/with the SO and HO.
48re ised basically a 47re with different internals. Doesn't matter what year. 47re is a 47re. 48re is a 48re INTERNALLY.
'05 started the 48re with the TTVA motor.
 
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So should I assume mine is a 48re since thats what the build sheet said? Garmon told me it would be a 47re. Its just something thats been bugging me. I dont care which one I have I just want to know for sure which one it is. Thanks for your info.
 
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Alright thanks a lot for all the info. I wouldnt say that theyre all junk, Ive pushed mine to the limit several times, and still shifts great, I know it will eventually fail thats why I have been saving my money and trying to gather info on which trans it really is. Thanks again
 
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they arnt all junk. i think they are pretty tough. mine (stock) has survived a smarty on #5 and my ty driving for over a year and pulling between 10,000lbs to 19,000lbs at least 3 times a month for 3 years. the thing has been slipping for the last 6 months but i just give her hell and it gets me where i need to go. You cant do that with any old tranny. :rof

oh yea my transfercase blew and it made it out of that also.
 
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OP, thanks for the info!