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Old 10-28-2009, 12:59 AM   #25 (permalink)
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what kind of HP #'s are they pushing when they get to the point that they need 3 pumps?

I dint know about 3 cp3's but the dmax a mile down the street from me makes 1200 hp with twin cp3's 1/4 mile in 10.4 @128 ..... 4 door loaded with cage/roll bar

Ty- you dont even want to guess how much $$$$ in that engine. (went through 3 this season)
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:07 AM   #26 (permalink)
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3 motors this season!!
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:08 AM   #27 (permalink)
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takes 30,000 in the motor to get 900 horse!!!

No. it can be done for a lot less but, my truck is built from the ground up with components most don't have. Those making 1000+ typically own shops or have lots of money that can rebuild as necessary. I didn't want to have to do that so, it's build pretty stout the first time.

btw... doesn't at all mean I still can't blow it up !

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Old 10-28-2009, 01:09 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I dint know about 3 cp3's but the dmax a mile down the street from me makes 1200 hp with twin cp3's 1/4 mile in 10.4 @128 ..... 4 door loaded with cage/roll bar

Ty- you dont even want to guess how much $$$$ in that engine. (went through 3 this season)
that's from spraying the hell out of it. You will go through some motors like that for sure !
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:20 AM   #29 (permalink)
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not to take away from your sales Shane but, there's no proof of that. There's plenty running stock pumps doing just fine. The Dmax guys that want a advantage are starting in on 3 CP3's
I don't know it all, but some seem to know even less.
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I never claimed to be an expert at any of this but, do know more than you may think. I do know what my truck does and is capable of. I run a stock Dmax and a stock Cummins pump. I can and have run 29K all day long with my lift psi dropping no more than 3 to 5 psi, this with 180hp injectors. These systems are only capable of 30K max and even then, that's pushing it. You can only push so much fuel through an injector no matter how big it is.

I hold nothing against what you do man and think you do a outstanding job of what you do. IMO though, a modded pump works best when you only have a single pump. Sled pullers that can't have duals will highly benefit from what you're doing !!

This is my opinion and my opinion only so, anyone can take it for what it's worth.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It is like this Ty, if you have a twin pump setup and can pull the rail down, you add a modded pump and the rail comes up as well as the power, it seems to be justified.

It wasn't long ago I said the same thing, 2 stockers will do all anyone ever needs. Well I have been made corrected by some of those who put on a modded pump in a dual arrangement.

It may not be necessary on a Cummins yet, but the Duramax guys are sure making gains with them. There are several 1200+hp fuel only Duramaxes out there.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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that's from spraying the hell out of it. You will go through some motors like that for sure !

NO spray IN the dmax motor--- only used across the intercooler... 1200 hp # 2 (diesel) only ..... no water or meth as well
last motor snapped the crank in HALF
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I've got the Evil Twin setup from Lloyd at Mid-Atlantic. I'd suggest adding his to the list you're researching. His kit feeds the rail in two places, similar to the ATS kit. I think PPE uses a "y" to feed the rail in the stock location. Lloyd's kit is well-priced, too.

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the PPE kit is rock solid if not class of the field. Whoever in this thread tried to insinuate that the kit is not complete must have been dealing with a used kit passed on as new
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Then it is PPE doing the passing... I was one of those victimized by PPE. They drop shipped the kit to the mechanic and when the missing pieces were pointed out they tried to blame me. When they then understood the kit never even touched my hands then it was everyone else's fault. Then they promised to fix it... For 6 months then stopped responding. I gave up. They never made it right despite many chances to do so. So I made it up myself and they wouldn't refund that cost.
Yeah, the kit works great... PPE cust. service SUCKS!
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Then it is PPE doing the passing... I was one of those victimized by PPE. They drop shipped the kit to the mechanic and when the missing pieces were pointed out they tried to blame me. When they then understood the kit never even touched my hands then it was everyone else's fault. Then they promised to fix it... For 6 months then stopped responding. I gave up. They never made it right despite many chances to do so. So I made it up myself and they wouldn't refund that cost.
Yeah, the kit works great... PPE cust. service SUCKS!
you're not alone. I know a couple other guys that were lacking parts and it was a act of congress to get them to send what was needed. After service isn't one of their strong points.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:36 AM   #36 (permalink)
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sounds like you shoulda bought the kit from the installing dealer, you would not be the victim
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