Amsoil vs K&N

***Cummins600*** · 03-19-2007, 10:16 AM

Well, I was looking to keep from starting a new thread...but I guess I will.

I once said that I didn't see why everyone was so negative toward K&N. Now I do. I took the filter off and wiped down the inside of the intake tube...and what I found what quite disturbing. The paper towel went in white...and came out brown and black. The inside of the K&N looked the same way. I know it was tight enough, so there wasn't any leak issues.
I ordered the Amsoil 4090 and got it the other day. First off, I really like the blue color and the chrome tip. I drove it around last night after the install and I noticed a little more pep to the truck..and the turbo makes a lot more noise than the K&N ever did. I can't wait to see what it does long term and how good a job it does with filtering the air. Guess I am really glad I checked it out before I make the move to put a new turbo on the truck. Maybe one of these weekends I will look at the compressor wheel to see if there is any wear from the particulate that made it past the K&N.

Anyway, I just wanted to post a quick one to let everyone know that I am no longer for the K&N. It's also kind of nice to not have to mess with the oil and cleaning solution too.

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donnie · 03-19-2007, 10:32 AM

I felt the same way about Airraid dropin until I checked the filter and found something disturbing.
The filter has been replaced with AMSOIL 189 dropin filter.

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powermizer · 03-19-2007, 10:42 AM

I have owned K&N filters for a long time. Just aim one at the light and you can see the pin holes in them.{disturbing}

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donnie · 03-19-2007, 11:34 AM

This is why I changed to the Amsoil filter.
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/at...1707_08461.jpg

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Bst Bilsteins

Last edited by donnie : 03-19-2007 at 11:39 AM.

**Duluth Diesel** · 03-19-2007, 11:39 AM

Yep, I've been saying this for about a year now. It is nice to see that others are seeing the same proof that I have seen. :thumbsup

-Chuck

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donnie · 03-19-2007, 11:45 AM

The way I figure it, y all spend your moiney for something, it should last longer than 10,000 Miles.
That is what I had on the pic of the filter before it went to the round can.

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**jbarker** · 03-19-2007, 12:01 PM

good choice guys

John:thumbsup

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SIXINAROW · 03-19-2007, 05:07 PM

K&N works great for gas but not for turbo diesels I found out the same way you guy's did. still use the k&n tube but now amsoil filter.

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chopperguy · 03-19-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXINAROW

K&N works great for gas but not for turbo diesels I found out the same way you guy's did. still use the k&n tube but now amsoil filter.

My wife got rid of her K&N on her modded WRX, we are running the Amsoil filters in everything! Can't wait for the 2 for the bikes!

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Jarrod Stickley · 03-19-2007, 08:22 PM

definetly didnt see response in fuel mpg or performance so i went to an AME cold air intake very happy with it

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dewey · 03-20-2007, 12:05 AM

I also ditched my K&N and went with the Amsoil 4090 very pleased so far. Should have changed sooner.

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**jbarker** · 03-20-2007, 12:41 AM

There is no doubt that the oil type filters have seen there rise to fame come and go. The nanofiber dryflow filters are the wave of the future. More and more people are realizing this and i think we will see more intake manufactures switching to them in the future

John:thumbsup

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03-19-2007, 10:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
*Cummins600* Diesel Head Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pueblo, CO Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 5 Posts Cummins600's Truck Pics	Amsoil vs K&N Well, I was looking to keep from starting a new thread...but I guess I will. I once said that I didn't see why everyone was so negative toward K&N. Now I do. I took the filter off and wiped down the inside of the intake tube...and what I found what quite disturbing. The paper towel went in white...and came out brown and black. The inside of the K&N looked the same way. I know it was tight enough, so there wasn't any leak issues. I ordered the Amsoil 4090 and got it the other day. First off, I really like the blue color and the chrome tip. I drove it around last night after the install and I noticed a little more pep to the truck..and the turbo makes a lot more noise than the K&N ever did. I can't wait to see what it does long term and how good a job it does with filtering the air. Guess I am really glad I checked it out before I make the move to put a new turbo on the truck. Maybe one of these weekends I will look at the compressor wheel to see if there is any wear from the particulate that made it past the K&N. Anyway, I just wanted to post a quick one to let everyone know that I am no longer for the K&N. It's also kind of nice to not have to mess with the oil and cleaning solution too. __________________ 2004.5 Cummins HO QCSB 4X4 SLT, TST PMCR, BDDL, HTB2 62/14, DDP 90's, Goerend Full Billet Trans/TC/VB, FASS 95, Amsoil 4090 on K&N, Magnaflow SS, Smittybuilt Bars, Westin Grille Guard, Di-Pricol Optix Gauges, Tuff Country 4.5" Lift, Eagle rims, 35/12.5/18 Toyo MT's, Bushwacker Flares 2001 Cummins SO QCSB 4x4 Laramie, Edge Juice w/Att, Magnaflow, Amsoil - Looking for a 2nd Gen 6spd

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03-19-2007, 10:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
donnie Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Simi Valley, Ca. Posts: 249 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts donnie's Truck Pics	I felt the same way about Airraid dropin until I checked the filter and found something disturbing. The filter has been replaced with AMSOIL 189 dropin filter. __________________ 05 2500 Silver Quad .4 spd. w/ 3.73 gears. Isspro pyro, boost, tranny temp, FP gauges. Silencer MIA. Amsoil Dropin w/ Airraid MIT. Catback MBRP. Bst Bilsteins

03-19-2007, 10:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
powermizer Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Jordan UT Posts: 288 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts powermizer's Truck Pics	I have owned K&N filters for a long time. Just aim one at the light and you can see the pin holes in them.{disturbing} __________________ 06 Laramie megacab,4x4,373diffs,level kit,285/75/18 wheels&tires,Air Bags,BMK 11 oil bypass, gauges,ATS five star converter,mag-HT DD pan,mag-HT diffy covers,Magnaflow muffler,BD I'C,drop in Nano,ATS arc flo,Cool Blue Hose,TST R49, 8100miles

03-19-2007, 11:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
donnie Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Simi Valley, Ca. Posts: 249 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts donnie's Truck Pics	This is why I changed to the Amsoil filter. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/at...1707_08461.jpg __________________ 05 2500 Silver Quad .4 spd. w/ 3.73 gears. Isspro pyro, boost, tranny temp, FP gauges. Silencer MIA. Amsoil Dropin w/ Airraid MIT. Catback MBRP. Bst Bilsteins Last edited by donnie : 03-19-2007 at 11:39 AM.

03-19-2007, 11:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
Duluth Diesel Supporting Vendor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 6,774 Thanks: 52 Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts Duluth Diesel's Truck Pics	Yep, I've been saying this for about a year now. It is nice to see that others are seeing the same proof that I have seen. :thumbsup -Chuck __________________ Proud Cummins Forum Sponsor since 2006 - SUPPORT YOUR CUMMINS FORUM SPONSORS, WE SUPPORT YOU! Specializing in AMSOIL everything AMSOIL Twin Port Sales - ONLINE STORE CLICK HERE *Click here for a free catalog or to become an AMSOIL* Dealer Change your thinking, not your oil. ANTI-GEL EXPLAINED**

03-19-2007, 11:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
donnie Cummins Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Simi Valley, Ca. Posts: 249 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts donnie's Truck Pics	The way I figure it, y all spend your moiney for something, it should last longer than 10,000 Miles. That is what I had on the pic of the filter before it went to the round can. __________________ 05 2500 Silver Quad .4 spd. w/ 3.73 gears. Isspro pyro, boost, tranny temp, FP gauges. Silencer MIA. Amsoil Dropin w/ Airraid MIT. Catback MBRP. Bst Bilsteins

03-19-2007, 12:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
jbarker Colorado Chapter Pres Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,027 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts jbarker's Truck Pics	good choice guys John:thumbsup __________________ 99, QC short bed running the best of the best and proven to perform. 715 h/p 1400ftlbs 4-18-09 Holland Court Diesel Your one stop Diesel SUPER SHOP 303-986-0330 Give us a call for the best of the best. Quality brand names with service you can trust all backed by nation wide warranties. Pureflow, Valair, BD power, DDP, HTT, Industrial injection, Dipricol, Quadzilla, S&B, Snow performance, Edge, Diamond eye, MBRP, PDR and more. We install what we sell

03-19-2007, 05:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
SIXINAROW Diesel Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Jackson, MI Posts: 1,012 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts SIXINAROW's Truck Pics	K&N works great for gas but not for turbo diesels I found out the same way you guy's did. still use the k&n tube but now amsoil filter. __________________ Charles built trans, SDX 5X16, soon to be mounted silver bullet 6>8

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Jarrod Stickley Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: pa Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Jarrod Stickley's Truck Pics	definetly didnt see response in fuel mpg or performance so i went to an AME cold air intake very happy with it __________________ smokindually

03-20-2007, 12:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
dewey Cummins Fan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ft. Hood TX Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts dewey's Truck Pics	I also ditched my K&N and went with the Amsoil 4090 very pleased so far. Should have changed sooner. __________________ 2004.5 2500 2WD SLT, 48RE, 3.73 Anti-Slip, 5"Straight-Pipe, DiabloSport Downloader, Banks Air Intake, K&N Intake, Auto Meter Gauges, Glacier 392 and Big Line Kit, Vortex Spray-In Liner, SP Diesel Overboost Eliminater, SP Diesel Turbo Timer

03-20-2007, 12:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
jbarker Colorado Chapter Pres Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,027 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts jbarker's Truck Pics	There is no doubt that the oil type filters have seen there rise to fame come and go. The nanofiber dryflow filters are the wave of the future. More and more people are realizing this and i think we will see more intake manufactures switching to them in the future John:thumbsup __________________ 99, QC short bed running the best of the best and proven to perform. 715 h/p 1400ftlbs 4-18-09 Holland Court Diesel Your one stop Diesel SUPER SHOP 303-986-0330 Give us a call for the best of the best. Quality brand names with service you can trust all backed by nation wide warranties. Pureflow, Valair, BD power, DDP, HTT, Industrial injection, Dipricol, Quadzilla, S&B, Snow performance, Edge, Diamond eye, MBRP, PDR and more. We install what we sell