programmers-how do they work?

[hambone88]

i stacked the predator with the mp-8.. it's real smokey and runs hot but it's still given me the best mpg improvements...

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[CPower06]

Originally Posted by blowerguy

That's exactly what this place needs. I've spent hours researching on here with little posting - because I seem to ask the same questions and get the same answers...."just go buy a smarty" Well, I did - and it doesn't seem to work any better that what I've already tried. I'd say 80% of us on here are looking to spend $1500 total in performance parts while the other 20% have a money tree and are looking for 10's in the quarter mile with a 4 ton truck.

Obviously there are some guys on here that have earned their respect with knowledge. So why can't we "sticky" their findings at the top of the page so we don't have every tom, dick, and harry Newbie coming in here posting, "which tuner" for the 87th time this week.

I'd like to know what level 3 does on my edge juice/attitude - and have people stacked it with a timing tune on the smarty?

I think it would be great if the performance parts discussion was split down to some more sub catagories.

1) Tuners
a) tuners only
b) stacks
2) intakes
3) exhaust
4) turbos
and so on........


There's just too much info to weed through. If I look up smarty, I get a hundred threads just talking about it's the holy grail of tuners, and nothing about what it actually does. I had no idea the used smarty I got was "old" and needed updated until I talked with a GURU on the phone.

I'd like to see what kind of timing each one of these things add, and some form of calculating how much fuel each one adds. Whether it be 10% more fueling, or whatever.

Its been years since I knew how a diesel was timed, and even at that - these new engines I'm sure are totally different.

What is stock timing ?* degrees BTDC? ATDC? what does the smarty add on it's levels?
What timing is dangerous?

stock timing is 12* btdc. the predator changes to 14, 16, 18 or 20 i believe

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[singleshot]

i have an 06 3500 5.9. looking for more power but dont want to go crazy. k&n air intake,bigger exhaust,tuner? looking for suggestions.

[RJF]

Still looking for the 3rd gen chart of what can and can't be stacked!

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[lhoskins]

has anyone ever heard of the powerpup being stacked with an mp-8? if so what kind of numbers for boost, egts, etc were being put out? ive got a powerpup that came with truck and i like it i just dont know if i wanna keep it and stack it with the mp-8 or get rid of it and buy a smarty and then stack it, any info would help.

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[quitstrokinstartcummin]

I am definitely going to watch this one. I'm a newbie with alot of dumb questions and something like this can answer alot of them. I hate asking questions and then finding an answer on a different post, help all the newbies out there? definitely.

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[#2gunsmoke]

Originally Posted by RJF

Still looking for the 3rd gen chart of what can and can't be stacked!

if im understanding this correctly, so is about 2/3 of the performance diesel world.... it'd def. make things alot easier, but its not there, so if we can take what people have stacked safely and document it,,,we have a base to go with, correct me if i am wrong but that would b answering alot of questions for most ppl looking to stack what they currently are running because the kid down the streets truck just kicked his in a heads up drag, and truck tug...........anyhow thats just my standpoint.

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[bluegoat83]

i have a 3rd gen with a bd pmt on it and a quadzilla exzilliraider 2 with the 140hp tune does anyone have any suggestions on how to set either one up so the work well together

[kllytomkins]

I am told by my friend that is a die hard dodge diesel mechanic that the edge is the safest way to go, as long as you don't go over #3 setting you won't overpresure the injectors but i dont know. I do know that i want the readout for temp and boost and the turbo timmer is a must to cool down that hot turbo. The fact that you can program the edge to back out boost and fuel when you want, for example when the EGT gets to high it will back it all down to protect your engine. Pretty cool

[s.v.t.]

just to give a heads up..
with my experience the diablo predator handheld tuner does NOT do on the fly adjustments. it will only allow timing and fuel changes, not boost.

it's best capabilities imo are that you can load a tune on it from someone that sells diablo tunings and load it onto your vehicle and then make slight changes.

i would not alter your own timing, fuel, or boost without proper knowledge of doing so, otherwise you could blow stuff up.

to be safe and get something that can adjust timing, fuel, boost, and has safe guards i'd spend the money for the edge with attitude.

just my $0.02

[dirtworx4me]

I have an 06 5.9 with an Edge Juice w/Attitude, does anyone have any advice on a stack? I want more hp and smoke. planning on adding twins eventually.

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[#2gunsmoke]

Originally Posted by dirtworx4me

I have an 06 5.9 with an Edge Juice w/Attitude, does anyone have any advice on a stack? I want more hp and smoke. planning on adding twins eventually.

smarty!!!!!!!!

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