If they ever invent a time machine, Im going back to hunt the man or men that invented the concept of the van.... and take them out! I will stop the insanity that is the modern van with the snub nose. I have been forced to work on some 7.3L E-Series vans, and your one sore and hurting puppy after that. Its uncool in the most severe of ways. Death to the gods of the modern van!