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ZF Tranny for 2016 Ram HD

Dear Ram,

Please offer the following manual transmission in the 2016 model year of trucks. A careful review of the specifications will reveal that the upgraded transmission supports up to 958 ft/lbs of torque. This would allow us to reap the full benefit of the current Cummins engine and even push the boundaries of its power.

In addition, there there is a 9 speed transmission (with a reverse gear & crawling gear). This would support a second overdrive gear to reclaim the milage crown from our automatic cousins.

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Erm...This is a medium duty transmission. We might be HDs as far as consumer vehicles go but we are light duty as far as commercial vehicles go.

Also, that transmission weighs double what a G56 weighs (418 lbs vs. 200-225 lbs depending on fluids).

Finally...you'll be lucky if they offer a manual anymore by then. Couple of reasons - manual transmission take rate is below 50%. Configuration wise, why have three transmission options when you can have 2? It's business. Even the new Vette's manual take rate is under 40%. Autos are bought in higher quantities = cheaper to produce, they are becoming more efficient = helps CAFE.
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Erm...This is a medium duty transmission. We might be HDs as far as consumer vehicles go but we are light duty as far as commercial vehicles go.

Also, that transmission weighs double what a G56 weighs (418 lbs vs. 200-225 lbs depending on fluids).
The Aisin is a "medium duty transmission" that also weighs a bunch more. ~80 lbs or so.

Plus manuals seem to be making a bit of a comeback:

Stick shifts popular again, despite lower gas mileage

My bet is Ram is still making a profit on its manuals which justify the option. So if you are going to make a manual why not make a humdinger of a manual?

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I'm seeing a lot more manuals on lots for sale than I did a few years ago.

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I like owning my manual. Wouldn't have it any other way. Would be great to see a high output manual from Ram, then I would trade my G-56 up by then.

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Dear Ram,

Please offer the following manual transmission in the 2016 model year of trucks. A careful review of the specifications will reveal that the upgraded transmission supports up to 958 ft/lbs of torque. This would allow us to reap the full benefit of the current Cummins engine and even push the boundaries of its power.

In addition, there there is a 9 speed transmission (with a reverse gear & crawling gear). This would support a second overdrive gear to reclaim the milage crown from our automatic cousins.

ZF Friedrichshafen AG TrucksTruckEcomid

Yours sincerely,

The Manual Faithful
Now, if they would only offer this tranny in an automatic, I'd sign on the dotted line. Sorry fellas, I can no longer drive a stick due to my injuries, but realistically, an automatic version of this would suite both our needs.


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If i could get a full power engine with a manual. I'd probably have bought one.

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8 forward speeds- I dunno that the general public would receive that very well. I think that would make a manual get old fast!!
I am sure however, that the quality of that unit is far beyond the G56!
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With 8 forward gears you can probably skip a few gears...having 3 OD gears to pick from would be great pending speed/load demands.

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While you are probably right, only a small percentage of the folks out there would think or know to do that. Me personally, I have effectively pretty much turned my 2013 Jetta sportwagon TDI from a 6 speed to a 3 speed! 1,3,and 5 for my rural driving here!
Of course, that does put the brunt of the wear on fewer components , leading to more repairs.

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With 8 forward gears you can probably skip a few gears...having 3 OD gears to pick from would be great pending speed/load demands.

Jason
Well, you could add a "splitter" to the current G56 and double your gears. I contemplated that with my 99' at one point just for something to do and increase the low end for off road and have higher OD's for the highway. Last time I looked the splitter and modified drive shaft was South of $2,000.00. Kinda cool having the "extra" lift knob under you gear shift knob and shifting like a "big rig". I did love driving my manual tranny.

Found this from my "how to" bookmarks.

http://www.gearvendors.com/mhfacts.html


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O.k., wow those prices have gone up!!! North of $3,000.00, now.


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