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View Poll Results: Would you Delete?
Of course! Fully delete right away! 19 22.89%
Nope. I rather keep it stock. I don't like the idea 32 38.55%
Rather spend the money elsewhere 15 18.07%
Already deleted 17 20.48%
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post #1 of 73 (permalink) Old 06-15-2017, 08:16 AM Thread Starter
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Would you delete?

Just wondering where everyone stands..

Here are the rules to consider:

- You have $3000 cash money
- No recalls on emissions equipment
- Never had issues with emissions on your truck
- Your state does not inspect/emissions test

Would you delete or just leave your truck the way it was?

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I would but I don't have the extra cash laying around to fix it if something happened
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Nope. I have bit my tongue more than a few times on this subject but I will throw this out there just FYI. Emissions rules are Federal laws, not state laws. So even if your state has no emissions laws it is still illegal to remove the equipment as it is a Federal law. So unless your truck will not be registered on the street (off road only) then the law says you can't remove it. Most states don't have a method of checking emissions equipment so it is easy to get away with. I believe the penalty for removal for a private individual is 5k and 25k for repair shops. It's your choice but since you asked you may as well have the info nobody is posting here. I will likely get flamed a bit for this and that is fine. You can for your own research if you want. Just my .02.

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Nope. I have bit my tongue more than a few times on this subject but I will throw this out there just FYI. Emissions rules are Federal laws, not state laws. So even if your state has no emissions laws it is still illegal to remove the equipment as it is a Federal law. So unless your truck will not be registered on the street (off road only) then the law says you can't remove it. Most states don't have a method of checking emissions equipment so it is easy to get away with. I believe the penalty for removal for a private individual is 5k and 25k for repair shops. It's your choice but since you asked you may as well have the info nobody is posting here. I will likely get flamed a bit for this and that is fine. You can for your own research if you want. Just my .02.

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I agree. When righting this post I mention your state not testing for it, not saying it was legal. So either way you would know the consequences for deleting if it ever came up.

However, if it was 100% legal in the state that you live in, you would still have to think about doing it since you will likely travel out of your home state eventually.

But, this reminds me of the pot dispensaries in lets say, Colorado. State law - legal, Federal Law - illegal. Can't take the pot out of state and if you do you know the consequences. (definitely more fines and jail for the pot example )

BTW this is quite the first post by you! lol

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I would but I don't have the extra cash laying around to fix it if something happened
unless you're under warranty, do you have the cash to fix the emissions equipment if it clogs or fails? Not saying I disagree just playing both sides of the coin here...

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Here is another thing to think of, when trading in my truck I had to sign paperwork that the truck emissions were all in place and the truck was never tuned. Granted the truck was still under factory 100,000 mile power train warranty so that may be why I had to sign that, to make sure it was still covered.

If you are out of warranty, my friends say they open up when everything is removed, but I would rather keep the warranty.
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I just don't understand deleting a 2013+ truck. Makes no sense to me.

The 2013+ trucks have way fewer EGR cycles, way fewer regens and run much more efficiently than the 2007.5 - 2012 trucks without SCR (def) systems.

@gsbrockman has gone over 253,000 miles with his 2014 stock truck. There are others too. People need to stop over-thinking things and "making it better" just because they read it on the interweb...

Emissions intact tuning -- SURE -- If that's what you want. More power, more fun, more drive-ability.

Deleting for deleting sake on a 2013+ truck just to "get that bad EGR / SCR stuff off my truck" is not a good idea, IMHO.

Also -- In this "Diesel Emissions Tampering" sensitive climate, it is asking for trouble. And what are you going to do with the truck on the back end when you need to sell / trade? A bunch of the same people who like to mod also like to upgrade. Then you have a "Frankenstein" 2013+ truck you have to either restore to stock or find someone to take the mess off your hands.

SIDE NOTE: For a multitude of reasons, deleting a 2007.5 - 2012 truck is another story. I would (did on my 2010) do it in a heartbeat.

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This is going to be one epic battle. It was starting to get a little boring around here.

I say delete.

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This is going to be one epic battle. It was starting to get a little boring around here.

I say delete.
I like to kick it up a notch from time to time
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I voted for spending the money elsewhere, as I'm not in either of the other camps. My truck is stock in the drivetrain department but once I'm out of warranty I will make the call if/when a problem arises. My decision will be 100% financial. If it's significantly cheaper to fix a problem one way or the other, that's what I'll do. I have no problem with the emissions equipment being on my truck, but if it's $5k to repair and $3k to delete, well, I think some crap is going to fall off my truck.
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Without research I deleted my 16 . I'm Happy with it . But most likely wasn't needed ..
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Don't plan on keeping it past that point.
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