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Price quote for head studs install

i called a shop by me to get a quote for studs and was quoted $2500 for extreme studs. seems like that included the price of the studs. was also told that he doesnt do it one by one and prefers to remove the whole head. am i being over charged?

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You need to find out what he's doing. If he's pulling the head he better be decking the head and block for that price.
No need to pull the head just to install studs.

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You need to find out what he's doing. If he's pulling the head he better be decking the head and block for that price.
No need to pull the head just to install studs.
i asked why he does that. he said its to make sure the mating surface is flat. he said he refuses to do it one by one. but i think its pointless to pull the head considering my truck only has 500miles on it.
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I know there is a torque sequence that is supposed to be followed when installing head bolts. This is too ensure that the head remains flat against the block when installing the head bolts. There is a certain sequence that has to be followed as well as two or three different torque lbs. Do one sequence at a certain lbs then another sequence at a certain lbs and then the final lbs torque spec in a certain sequence. That is the only reason I could see the shop refusing to do one at a time. If you remove one and put one back in its spot, there is (albeit a small chance) a chance that it could cause a small amount of warping to the head. There is also (probably the main reason) the possibility that the head gasket will not retain a proper seal causing a whole host of other issues.
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I can see his point, if you check the head/deck surface and its in spec thats great, if it is out then he could be liable if you blow a gasket out. Probability of it being out of spec is likely damn near zero. Its not like you are doing this to a 6.0 Powerstroke.
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i guess his main purpose is to make sure the gasket doesnt lose its seal by doing it one by one. also, the price he quoted me includes all machining work that needs to be done.

also, my reason for doing studs is to bulletproof my truck, i wont be hot rodding it. i just want to make sure my truck never leaves me stranded
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I would never, ever, break the factory seal just to add studs. There's 1000's who have done them one at a time with no problems. There's no seal like the factory seal.
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Find another shop that will install the studs one by one and not touch the headgasket. There is no need to replace if there is no issue now. Extra work for the sake of doing it is pointless.

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so what is a price range should i be looking for in labor? assuming the person does it one by one without removing the head.

the shop i called seems reputable?

this is their web page

http://massdiesel.com

i dont know enough about this to argue with the guy about doing it one by one.

by the way, im located in NYC and have a place in NH. so im open to suggestions for other shops in the area (VT, CT, MA)
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So, you have a brand new truck with 500 miles on the new Cummins engine, nothing wrong with it, and you want to open it up just to change out headstuds? Not building it? Trying to make crazy power? Am i missing something? The engine in itself is more than likely the most reliable part of that truck.

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So, you have a brand new truck with 500 miles on the new Cummins engine, nothing wrong with it, and you want to open it up just to change out headstuds? Not building it? Trying to make crazy power? Am i missing something? The engine in itself is more than likely the most reliable part of that truck.
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I've done prolly 50 trucks one at a time, never had a failure I know of. There is no reason to remove a head to do studs, that's stupid. I charged 600 labor to do the studs, which included cutting the rocker box to fit and running the valve lash and setting to .010 intake and .020 exhaust. Something in that ball park is fair I think for the job.
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