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So I find myself in a very fortunate situation. My company is willing to pick up most of my tab on the vehicle I own as long as it's within 5 years old. I currently own 02 ECSB Powerstroke and I do love it. 300K on the clock with a chip, exhaust and a tuner. Honestly. Love my truck. My 1st one, same year, was a ECLB with a 6 speed. Now I'm older, wife, 3 year old and another on the way. The extended cab just won't due. Tow a 35' 5th wheel about 6 times a year. I love rowing my own gears. I notice the manual version gets de-rated to 660ftlbs vs the 900 of the auto. I really want the 900ftlbs but know damn well when it needs a rebuild it's going to be a small fortune. The auto in the Powerstroke is original. I figure this is an out-liar and not the norm.

Here's my options:
1: By the manual now and after warranty is over slap a tuner on it
2: By the automatic and drive it till the tranny fails

I don't trade every few years so please weigh in.

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The automatic will be fine unless you try to turn it up some. The 68rfe doesn't have the issues the older 48re had. My suggestion is to go to the dealership and drive one of each and make an opinion of your own.
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Buy the Aisin. It will go 300k.

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Buy the Aisin. It will go 300k.
I agree, had I thought just a little more, I would have gone 3500 in exact same config as my 2500 but with Aisin and 900 sweet torques!!!

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Buy the Aisin. It will go 300k.
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Great advice spoken by all posters!! you can see the truck in my signature. totally love the manual!!! i always loved manuals! downside, weak clutch. i think i will either be doing a clutch in the pretty near future or, just taking it very easy and letting that eight cylinder diesel go tearing of in the distance!!!

i also run a 5500 Aisin equipped. very few complaints! i regularly gross around 30k. and the trans is nearly perfect!!

id suggest making the decision based somewhat on whether you want to be rowing through six gears everytime you start off and be in control or if you like the trans deciding which gear it think would be best for the time.

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Welcome to CF.
Since your family is growing, you'll probably want a MegaCab, unless you must have an 8' long bed, then you will have to stay with the Crew Cab.

As far as the tranny's, if you want 900Ft Lbs. you must get the Aisin Tranny. These are pretty stout units.
Not that the 68RFE's are a bad tranny. (800Ft Lbs.) Some people have had problems but the majority do not.
No tranny is going to be fidiot proof. Throw a bunch of extra power at it and try some boosted launches, well you get the idea.
The G56's are down rated on the torque due to the stock clutches. Ram as well as any other manufacturer will set up the tranny to be as quiet and easy shifting as possible. They can always be upgraded with a DD setup.

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I gotta say I love my G56. If mine got totalled I would buy another G56 in a heartbeat. No regrets.

I will say my truck is not my daily driver. I usually drive it twice a week.

It almost always has dirt bikes or snowmobiles in the back or in tow. It's my toy hauler to go riding and camping.

I live in Montana so I don't drive traffic at all but I deal with mountain passes and forest service roads on a weekly basis. For that, the manual is great.

I drove the Aisin and 68RFE and they just didn't do it for me. Especially with the 3.42 gears you are stuck with in the SRW.
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All very great point but I'm still torn. Indecision killed the cat. Another plus with the auto, can't believe I'm saying this, is when I need a spell and the Mrs needs to drive.
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All very great point but I'm still torn. Indecision killed the cat. Another plus with the auto, can't believe I'm saying this, is when I need a spell and the Mrs needs to drive.
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I like manuals too but the fact that my wife will jump behind the wheel and pull our camper with an automatic was a weighing option for me going 68rfe. More than once we have been able to keep going when I needed a break. I had my fun in my manual duramax, but to get it to hold good power I ended up with a dual disk clutch. It was a bit grabby and was a pain to back up trailers with. Also a bit noisy.

I may own another one but my camper hauler will remain an auto, possibly the aisin next time around. If I keep this one after the warranty expires, it will just get tuned including trans tuning.

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I have had one of every transmission you are considering. I really like my current Aisin. The order i would class them from best to least favorite are Aisin, G56, bus pass. I think these Aisins are pretty good. Mine knows what gear to be in and never lugs. Down shifts as needed and is very smooth. But, i do not want to know what a rebuild will cost out of warranty. I have not read of many issues unless it was an out of the box issue.
My G56 had a double disc clutch. It had a pretty stiff pedal and the wife could not shift it well once that went in. Get what you want ASAP so that company can start reimbursing you for it.

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Need to refi the house 1st before the purchase then it's off to the dealer.
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