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Possible To Add OE Rear Air Ride?

I know about the Kelderman Kit.

But...is it possible to add the OE Rear Air Ride on a Coil Sprung 2500?

Would it be a simple, swap out the Coils for the Bags, run some air lines, and you're set? Or are the mounting brackets / points different?

I ask, because on GM SUV's that are coil sprung in the rear, IT IS possible to simply swap the Spring with the Bag, and you're good to go.

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I would imagine you can, all mounting spots are there! Now the cost may be prohibitive, look at Total Load Control with the wireless one air compressor. I had it on my 1500 and was great and when I went to the 2500 I put it on this one too! You can set I believe 3 or 4 programmed pressures in the remote so if you have different trailers. All you have to do is install where the bump stops are mount compressor, run the air lines and power to fuse box and your set! I added an additional switch for power to the system. Should be able to get the whole set up on sale for less than $600.
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Anything is possible, but the oem rear air suspension is totally integrated into the trucks body module system. The bags themselves are probably a fairly easy changeover, but the self levelling valves and the compressor system is another story, that part would take some doing and would cost an arm and a leg.

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Anything is possible, but the oem rear air suspension is totally integrated into the trucks body module system. The bags themselves are probably a fairly easy changeover, but the self levelling valves and the compressor system is another story, that part would take some doing and would cost an arm and a leg.
I know it's integrated. I'm not doing a full install. Just the Bags and I'll run my own Air Lines.

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I know it's integrated. I'm not doing a full install. Just the Bags and I'll run my own Air Lines.
Much cheaper to go aftermarket.
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Your better off forgetting about oem bags and just get a set of aftermarket like firestone and be done with it.Aftermarket comes in a complete kit whereas oem bags is all you get then you will have to buy all the install hardware.
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I assume your not wanting air assist, you want full air? Then factory with your own air support would be fairly easy. I'd just be weary of full air if something blew. I'd run air assist
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I assume your not wanting air assist, you want full air? Then factory with your own air support would be fairly easy. I'd just be weary of full air if something blew. I'd run air assist
Correct! I want to REMOVE and REPLACE the OE Coils with the OE Air Bags. NOT run a supplemental Air Bag like Firestone, AirLift, Pac Brake, ect...

I'm just trying to find out, if I pull the Coils, if the OE Bags will fit / bolt right in, or is there going to be some modding going on.

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Guess I don't understand then what the big deal is about the factory airbags?

Aftermarket bags will work just as well for what you are looking to do and would be cheaper.

I haven't seen or heard about anyone replacing the coils with factory airbags, so I doubt anyone is going to have a definitive answer for you.

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I haven't seen or heard about anyone replacing the coils with factory airbags, so I doubt anyone is going to have a definitive answer for you.
Nope, they won't.

Some here thought 2WD springs, is all that would be needed to get 2WD ride height on a 4WD truck. I tried it and there are other differences, because it didn't change the ride height.
Wouldn't be surprised to find there are for the factory airbags as well.

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Again I wouldn't see any reason they wouldn't fit, they don't make special frames and axles for this set up. Why do you want the OE bags? Preference or for a certain reason? The cost vs the supplemental would be way higher. There are air kits for the front and back that allow you to lift truck in demand and lower for garage parking but then Have the lifted look. I guess you just want the integrated OE back look and fit. I would take my 9" Goodyear bags from TLC over any others out there!
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I am wanting to swap from coils to air also, please keep this updated with what you do. I have been looking at these.

https://kelderman.com/shop/2014-ram-...il-replacement

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