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If they do, I'll buy the last run model of the Cummins Ram and call it a day.

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I have an ex-friend that has worked Case now Case IH for 40 years in Fargo ND.

Don't know if Ram will follow but FCA has divided Ram from Chrysler. Disassociating Ram from Chrysler/Dodge could be their slow and deliberate progression toward making Ram their own brand and selling off Chrysler/Dodge.
Yes this is true , foreigners quickly forget how just fickle the US consumer can be. Knowing your customer is everything. Could they be that misinformed?

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Toyota has been itching to get into the US market. If FCA tampers with perfection , I'm sure Ford will snap up those Cummins motors.
Ford doesn't want Cummins.

Now, that's going to get a lot of flack as it's a bold statement, but follow me here. Back in the day, Ford got offered the 6BT by Cummins, and Ford turned them down. Ford also had an opportunity to start from a clean slate, build any engine they wanted in any configuration they wanted, and they went V8.

The fact is, both Ford and GM have chosen the V8 architecture for their diesel engines. Neither wants an inline 6, and neither would pick up Cummins for their own trucks if said unicorn happening of Chrysler/Cummins relationship breaking up.

Now, I'm not naive to think Chrysler and Cummins will be together for ever and ever, at some point the relationship will end. It happens.

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Okay Mopar, I'm calling you out. If you had to choose between the Titen/Cummins or the Ram/Ecodiesel, which truck would you go to? You've got those monster Cummins engines. Would you stay Moparproud??

I'd stick with the Cummins no matter which truck it was stuck in. Fiat builds pieces of junk, always has, always will.
Fair question.

I would choose the EcoDiesel.

However, that also comes with another question: what am I doing with the truck? Am I towing a 10k trailer? Well then, per the book, I have to get the Titan. Am I doing the daily grind and want an economical cruiser? EcoD all the way.

I've cross-shopped the offerings from GM (Colorado/Canyon I4 baby Duramax) as well as the Ram EcoDiesel and Titan XD Cummins. I'd love to have one of each of every diesel pickup I can buy, and yes that would even include the '15/'16 Powerstroke. Just to experience each from a firsthand experience.

And now, since my truck is dead, again, I'd really like to jump on a good reliable economical cruiser, in either the GM twins or the EcoD. Ultimately can't swing either at the moment so...

Anyway, mindless rambling; as far as the Titan XD Cummins is concerned, I feel it's the biggest disappointment in a new vehicle in my 33.5 years of life. I've never been more excited, and more let down, for something probably ever. There was the Hellcat, but it's not a disappointment (still haven't driven/ridden in one). The XD was shockingly underpowered. Around town, it felt great. You sat high, which I like in a truck, a nice commanding view of the road. It even felt powerful enough for around town. However, getting onto I80 in Laramie was stunningly not impressive. I figured "with a dual-turbo Cummins V8 under the hood, she oughta move out!" and.....it didn't. My '03, bone stock, had similar power numbers as the XD (305hp/555trq Dodge, 310hp/555trq XD) and I guarantee my '03 bone stock would wipe the floor with the XD without even breaking a sweat. I'm talking empty, a flat-out drag race, yanking 10k up a hill, by any measure the old truck would out-power the new XD.

And price-point, the XD is priced too high. Well, they ALL are but for what you get with the Nissan, I don't think the cash outlay is on-par. My opinion.

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Wow, this 'rumor' has really grown it's own set of legs!!
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It pops up multiple times a year, and has since 1989. I assume if they're still supplying Ram trucks in 2030, the rumors will be just as common.

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I agree, Ford doesn't want cummins and Neither does GM....both have invested millions to use the current engine they use now.

JMO, but I don't think it would be the end of the world if Ram did change. FPT make engines for 550hp $400,000.00 plus dollar combines.... surely they can make a truck engine just as good as cummins.

I hope Ram stays with Cummins though. At my current rate I'll be ready for a new one about 2030 lol.

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My 5th cousins, brother in laws moms works for a guy who has knows a guy that's sister is married to a guy who is best friends with this other guy and he said "cummings" was cutting ties with Ram cause them damn foreigners that now control Ram. He of course heard this from his best friends uncle who has a son that works for a Ram dealer so you know is %300 legit info here.

Seriously, the Cummins/Ram product is a cash cow. Splitting the 2 is not in either parties interest. Yes, both could survive without the other. Financially profitable? Anything is possible but with a proven and working relationship in place I highly doubt either company will destabilize the partnership on a risky bet or over an ego trip.

With that said anything is possible but believe me you'll get word long before it comes down. A legit rumor mill will churn and most importantly....... watch the FCA and Cummins stock numbers.

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If PowerStroke is working out ..... why are owners still reporting major engine failures ?

Plus , you forgot Ford was using Cummins motors on their heavy commercial trucks up to last year.
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FCA would be stupid to take the Cummins out of the ram trucks. It's what sells them now. With that said, what HD diesel truck would yall move to if it happened? Ford or Chevy?
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FCA would be stupid to take the Cummins out of the ram trucks. It's what sells them now. With that said, what HD diesel truck would yall move to if it happened? Ford or Chevy?
Which ever one has the Cummins in it.........

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FCA would be stupid to take the Cummins out of the ram trucks. It's what sells them now. With that said, what HD diesel truck would yall move to if it happened? Ford or Chevy?
The same thing I have now-----with a re-man when required.
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fca would be stupid to take the cummins out of the ram trucks. It's what sells them now. With that said, what hd diesel truck would yall move to if it happened? Ford or chevy?
gmc.........

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