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If FCA drops Cummins and it the FCA motor anything like the 3.0 VM built overseas Most will move to gas. The 3.0 relationship is Zero/Hero Fortunately My 3.0 is a Hero But some are on 3rd motor.

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I can't see Ram and Cummins going their separate way any time soon. It's the Cummins that makes the Ram trucks unique. Without it, it's just another truck.
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So the guy on Fb is full of shiite then. He's saying that once Fiat has used up the ''remaining Cummins engines they will be installing their own. Love my I-6 cummins and would never want to go to a V8.
I was under the impression that EVERYONE on FB was full of.....stuff.

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I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see a fiat/Iveco engine take the Cummins place one day. Fiat also owns CNH( case new holland). For years, Case used the 4bt in skidsteers, backhoes, and some of the smaller excavators. Now, the smaller Case equipment uses a Fiat engine...the larger uses an Isuzu engine as they did before. Just got a new Case SV340 and it has a SCR only Fiat diesel. Its really smooth, quiet, and efficient...if its just as reliable as the 4bt I'll be happy.
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I'm glad I've not got FB. Then I would have even more people on the internet hate me, like 1000% more. I'll keep it small and to CF.
Okay Mopar, I'm calling you out. If you had to choose between the Titen/Cummins or the Ram/Ecodiesel, which truck would you go to? You've got those monster Cummins engines. Would you stay Moparproud??

I'd stick with the Cummins no matter which truck it was stuck in. Fiat builds pieces of junk, always has, always will.
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Toyota has been itching to get into the US market. If FCA tampers with perfection , I'm sure Ford will snap up those Cummins motors.
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Toyota already has their own diesel engines they sell in trucks and vans overseas. I know my inlaws Toyota van in the Philippines has the Toyota diesel engine in it. Also, a lot of the Jeepnies in the Philippines also use the Toyota diesel engine.

My brother is a college teacher in San Diego. He teaches Ford products only. He says that the in-house Ford diesel engine is a great engine. I don't see Ford ever going to Cummins. They have a lot invested in their own heavy duty diesel. I think Cummins is too big and diversified to ever be bought out by another company.

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I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see a fiat/Iveco engine take the Cummins place one day. Fiat also owns CNH( case new holland). For years, Case used the 4bt in skidsteers, backhoes, and some of the smaller excavators. Now, the smaller Case equipment uses a Fiat engine...the larger uses an Isuzu engine as they did before. Just got a new Case SV340 and it has a SCR only Fiat diesel. Its really smooth, quiet, and efficient...if its just as reliable as the 4bt I'll be happy.
You have good point. CaseIH also used the larger Cummins as well for many years. 5.9, 8.3, M11 and N14 were used in thousands of case tractors until Fiat took them over, then they kicked cummins to the curb and now use mainly FPT (formerly Iveco)
But there's a lot of brand loyalty and name recognition with Dodge/Ram Cummins, ditching it would be a risky move for FCA. It will be interesting to see what happens moving forward.

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Okay Mopar, I'm calling you out. If you had to choose between the Titen/Cummins or the Ram/Ecodiesel, which truck would you go to? You've got those monster Cummins engines. Would you stay Moparproud??
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Toyota already has their own diesel engines they sell in trucks and vans overseas. I know my inlaws Toyota van in the Philippines has the Toyota diesel engine in it. Also, a lot of the Jeepnies in the Philippines also use the Toyota diesel engine.

My brother is a college teacher in San Diego. He teaches Ford products only. He says that the in-house Ford diesel engine is a great engine. I don't see Ford ever going to Cummins. They have a lot invested in their own heavy duty diesel. I think Cummins is too big and diversified to ever be bought out by another company.
Hino is a great brand but not so in the US. Same for Nissan and their diesel. Ford would be smart to use the available capacity of Cummins. Cummins is far to rich for Ford to purchase. I see Cummins only getting bigger if Ram cuts them loose. The PowerStroke ? every so often those horror stories from owners and warranty denial just pushes me away.

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I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see a fiat/Iveco engine take the Cummins place one day. Fiat also owns CNH( case new holland). For years, Case used the 4bt in skidsteers, backhoes, and some of the smaller excavators. Now, the smaller Case equipment uses a Fiat engine...the larger uses an Isuzu engine as they did before. Just got a new Case SV340 and it has a SCR only Fiat diesel. Its really smooth, quiet, and efficient...if its just as reliable as the 4bt I'll be happy.
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You have good point. CaseIH also used the larger Cummins as well for many years. 5.9, 8.3, M11 and N14 were used in thousands of case tractors until Fiat took them over, then they kicked cummins to the curb and now use mainly FPT (formerly Iveco)
But there's a lot of brand loyalty and name recognition with Dodge/Ram Cummins, ditching it would be a risky move for FCA. It will be interesting to see what happens moving forward.
I have an ex-friend that has worked Case now Case IH for 40 years in Fargo ND.

Don't know if Ram will follow but FCA has divided Ram from Chrysler. Disassociating Ram from Chrysler/Dodge could be their slow and deliberate progression toward making Ram their own brand and selling off Chrysler/Dodge.
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