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post #73 of 100 (permalink) Old 01-20-2012, 09:31 PM
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Ok guys i am going to go eat dinner now i am out have fun with this hope yall learned something.

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Heipps you more than welcome to give me a shout if your having any doubts man. I can walk you through the whole process in about 5 min. 2252789895

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this has gotten way more complicated than it needs to be.... route it however you want just DONT put it back to the turbo as a catch basin.

the only reason you see oil in these ''coffee mugs" and in your turbo is because you give those vapors a place to condense... if it is straight hose those vapors just escape and disapate.. its not like there is oil just dripping out of the hose

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Then why are there allot of reports on this forum and others that way before the system filter is full oil is working its way to some members turbo? This is a big problem.
It's not a "big" problem, but it is a problem. I guess you missed my point about "excessive" blow-by being abnormal, which it is, and if you have enough blow-by to NEED that much airflow the CCV is the LEAST of your problems.

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In theory you are correct .The cummons in the 6.7 uses a cdr valve. I will explain more later.

Lets revisit this. Why does a cdr need a vacuum to operate properly.

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The CDR cannister, affectionately known as the "tuna can", is a Positive Crankcase Ventilation system for Diesels.


It provides regulated low-vacuum, about 1" at idle to 4 to 6 inches WC at full load, from the engine air intake path to remove blow-by gases from the crankcase, and prevent oil leaks.
Bzzt, nope. Again, the vacuum doesn't PULL the pressure out of the crankcase.

Here's how the 6.7 CCV system works according to the FSM.



Cummins refers to the CDR as a "Crankcase Differential Regulator" and is actually to prevent pulling oil out of the crankcase under high-vacuum conditions.

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The CCV valve is used to vent crankcase gases back into intake of engine. If crankcase ventilation filter becomes clogged, under high intake vacuum situations, the CCV will prevent the engine from siphoning crankcase gases and oil from the engine crankcase.
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The CDR, Crankcase Depression Regulator, is designed to function with low-level vacuum. The tuna-can size is to accomodate the large silicone rubber\synthetic diaphragm. Vacuum on the diaphragm actuates the valve against a low-pressure spring, calibrated for turbo or non-turbo applications, which also functions to ensure that the valve opens as vacuum decreases.


Fully open at idle, it will begin to close as power demand and vacuum increases, regulating the 'depression' in the crankcase such that excessive oil is not drawn out of the engine, and blow-by pressure in the crankcase does not increase.
Yes, that is correct. If you REMOVE the filter and the line running to the turbo inlet, instead letting it vent to the atmosphere, there is no need for a CDR as there are no concerns about excessive vacuum. Again, it's not VACUUM that pulls the pressure out of the crankcase, the POSITIVE pressure in the crankcase vents itself.

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Folks. Do what you want to with your ccv system. I have ordered a can to catch the oil that makes its way to the turbo if any. That is my solution.
Let us know how it works, but again...you're way overthinking how the CCV works and what its purpose is. It does not require any sort of "vacuum" to vent properly, it just needs a place to vent, preferably someplace where it won't make a huge mess.

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Heipps you more than welcome to give me a shout if your having any doubts man. I can walk you through the whole process in about 5 min. 2252789895
I'll try it out tomorrow and if I have any issues i'll give you a shout! So what im going to do is find a plug that fits for the intake (do you know what size?) then take the hose that is currently going from the valve cover to the turbo and run it down how cumminsfirefighter did his (in the pics) and cut to length. Then pull out the ccv filter and thats it?


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Yes sir! 3/4" hose and 3/4" plug. Two hose clamps and thats a wrap cap!! Run it at a downward angle infront of the firewall and level with the bottom of the control arm. You want a green bean can cuz?

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Yes sir! 3/4" hose and 3/4" plug. Two hose clamps and thats a wrap cap!! Run it at a downward angle infront of the firewall and level with the bottom of the control arm. You want a green bean can cuz?
seems simple enough. And ill pass on the can! I don't think ill put a jar or anything actually, just the slobber hose and thats it.


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This was a great read. Thanks to all of you. I'm going to install a K&N with rubber elbow, at the valve cover and a plug at the air intake tube.

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I guess my question now is do I use my kit from Glacier or just run a hose to the ground?

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I guess my question now is do I use my kit from Glacier or just run a hose to the ground?
if you remove the ccv filter, run a hose to ground. if you leave it, use gdp kit.


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