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Old 03-18-2011, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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08 Cummins P0341 Cam Position Sensor

Truck popped this code the other week but seemed to run OK, so I cleared it.

Just took a 1500 mile trip and close to home it started running poorly but had no check engine light.
I checked codes with my BM and it showed the P0341 code again.

I got and installed a new cam position sensor, and drove it on a parts run. Truck ran ok, but popped the check engine light and has a P0341 code again..

Any ideas?
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3. CAMSHAFT SENSOR
Turn the ignition off.
Disconnect the cam sensor harness connector.
Check connectors - Clean/repair as necessary.
Measure the resistance between the (F855) 5-volt supply circuit and the (K44) signal circuit of the sensor.
Is the resistance between 900 and 1100 ohms?
Yes >> Go To 4
No >> Replace the camshaft sensor.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1 (DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC
CONTROL MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING)

4. (K44) SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN
Disconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Measure the resistance of the (K44) signal circuit between the ECM
harness connector and the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes >> Go To 5
No >> Repair the open (K44) signal circuit.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)
9 - 1332 ENGINE - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS - DIESEL DR

5. Diagnostic Test Topic Goes Here
Measure the resistance of the (F855) 5-volt supply circuit between the
ECM harness connector and the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes >> Go To 6
No >> Repair the open (F855) 5-volt supply circuit.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)

6. (K916) RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN
Measure the resistance of the (K916) return circuit between the ECM
harness connector and the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance less than 10 ohms?
Yes >> Go To 7
No >> Repair the open (K916) return circuit.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)
DR ENGINE - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS - DIESEL 9 - 1333

7. (K44) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND
Measure the resistance between the (K44) signal circuit in the sensor
harness connector and battery negative.
Is the resistance greater than 100k ohms?
Yes >> Go To 8
No >> Repair (K44) signal circuit shorted to ground.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)

8. (K44) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (F855) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT
Measure the resistance between the (K44) signal circuit and the (F855)
5-volt supply circuit in the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k ohms?
Yes >> Go To 9
No >> Repair (K44) signal circuit shorted to the (F855) 5-volt supply
circuit.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)

9. (K44) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO (K916) RETURN CIRCUIT
Measure the resistance between the (K44) signal circuit and the (K916)
return circuit in the sensor harness connector.
Is the resistance greater than 100k ohms?
Yes >> Go To 10
No >> Repair (K44) signal circuit shorted to the (K916) return circuit.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)
9 - 1334 ENGINE - ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSTICS - DIESEL DR

10. (K44) SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORT TO VOLTAGE
Measure the voltage between the (K44) signal circuit in the sensor harness
connector and battery negative.
Is the voltage less than 1 volt?
Yes >> Go To 11
No >> Repair (K44) signal circuit shorted to voltage.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)

11. ECM
Reconnect the ECM harness connectors.
Measure the voltage between the (K44) signal circuit in the sensor harness
connector and battery negative.
Is the voltage less than 1 volt?
Yes >> Test Complete.
No >> Replace the ECM.
Perform POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST VER - 1
(DIESEL). (Refer to 8 - ELECTRICAL/ELECTRONIC CONTROL
MODULES/ENGINE CONTROL MODULE - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING)



This is out of a a 2006 DR service manual i can try and figure out pictures if you want
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Wow you sure didn't leave nothing out lol. Now to the question when my truck did that I had to just disconnect the batteries for a while and it hasn't came back since I changed the cam sensor twice before I stopped to think that might work the only difference in mine is it wouldn't start after I got all my injector work done it just popped up from nowhere id try that before anything else but its up to you bud good luck
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Old 03-19-2011, 10:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I had this code one time a short while after I had a shop do my head gasket. Turns out they didn't tie the wiring harness back right and it rubbed through on one of the pulleys. I guess that's why I'm going to do the next head gasket myself.
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Old 04-09-2011, 11:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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How easy/hard to replace the position sensor?

Did you have easy access to the cam position sensor or did you have to remove other parts?

Is this the same as the crank position sensor or are they two different things?

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Truck popped this code the other week but seemed to run OK, so I cleared it.

Just took a 1500 mile trip and close to home it started running poorly but had no check engine light.
I checked codes with my BM and it showed the P0341 code again.

I got and installed a new cam position sensor, and drove it on a parts run. Truck ran ok, but popped the check engine light and has a P0341 code again..

Any ideas?
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Old 04-09-2011, 11:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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The cam sensor is on the timing cover between the cp3 and the power steering pump I've always removed the ecm and its easy access then I'm kinda having a brain cart so someone else will have to tell you bout the crank sensor lol
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I am having the same problem replaced the sensor and ran fine for about 100 miles then started bucking and threw the code again.. any other ideas? i have been looking over all the wires not seeing any that are cut or damaged..
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Hey I know this thread is old but I'm wondering what you did to fix this? I'm having all the sane issues now. I changed the sensor and checked the wiring but still the light. Maybe the ecm is going bad? Injector? Alternator? I don't know
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mine has been doing good for a while now.. the only thing i did was pull all the wires going to the ac compressor and tape them up and zip tie them tight which i had seen in another thread saying they may be related since my problem was happening when i turned the ac on. after that i have not noticed any issues..
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Why does it even have a cam sensor? Cam is gear driven right?
if its gear driven, why care that the sensor is out? If its chain driven, would make sense because it would alert you to loose chain.
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