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Old 01-14-2011, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hot Start brand engine block heater?

i read something in diesel power about a Hot Start brand engine block heater that is kinda like a canister heater. well more like a hot water heater you have in a house but it just constantly circulates the warm coolant throughout the system. I have seen similar systems on emergency backup generators. I was wondering if anyone had experience with these and what they thought? I don't have to plug in much in texas but looking at moving so i am doing my research. thanks
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Your Cummins already has a block heater. If you don't have the pig tail to plug it in, buy one. They work really well
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you do have a block heater more than likely but with that hot start it circulates the coolant to a temperature warmer that what the block heater will do. My block heater warms the engine up to 80 degrees i believe that hot start was like 120 or 140 if i remember reading plus factory one won't circulate coolant
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My early driving years were in Winnipeg where winter temperatures often dropped below -40. If you didn't plug your vehicle in (gas or diesel) you probably weren't going to start it until spring. Standard behavior if you were staying overnight without access to an electric plug was to leave the vehicle running.

One of my vehicles was a 1980 Mazda RX-7 which was not a great winter car for so many reasons. I had a bunch of electric help to keep it warm: block heater, dipstick heater, electric battery blanket, in-car heater, and a rad hose heater. (streetlights would dim when I plugged the car in).

I don't know why more people didn't use rad hose heaters because this was the most effective of them all. It didn't pump the coolant, but it flowed because of convection and really worked well.

Is that anything like the Hot Start?
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I haven't done anything other than use the stock heater in my CTD, but I also have a 2 litre VW diesel that did not come with a heater and has no frost plugs. I put in a 1000 W Zero Start heater and it works great. The only thing to remember with a natural circulation heater is to mount it low relative to the engine and make sure it has a path upward for the heated coolant to rise into.
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i am well aware of the fact that my truck has the block heater, but like stated above, the Hot Start circulates the warm fluid and also is capable of warming the coolant to around 140F. engine block heaters are great but i was just wondering if anyone had experience with the canister style heaters, like i said, i am considering moving north (considerably colder than Texas) and was wondering what others thought. seems like a pretty good thing to me, i mean the ability to have the truck blowing warm air into the cab at start up. sounds cozy.
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Your Cummins already has a block heater. If you don't have the pig tail to plug it in, buy one. They work really well
Every cummins has one? Where to get the pigtail?
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Old 01-17-2011, 07:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dodge Cummins Diesel Truck Accessories – Geno’s Garage

look in the "Cold Weather Products" page
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I tried one of the tank heaters a while back on my Jeep. It was a cheaper one, made by Kats, and didn't last very long. Worked great when it did though.
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I think what you are looking for is an Espar heater, mopar used to sell a specific kit but it's been discontinued, here is a link to the mopar numbers, some dealers may still have some: 2007 Dodge Ram Engine & Cabin Heater Accessories

I also found a link on here talking about them, if you search for espar you will find a bunch of info: 2007 Dodge Ram Engine & Cabin Heater Accessories

I also believe you can get a kit directly from Espar.
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Dodge Cummins Diesel Truck Accessories – Geno’s Garage

look in the "Cold Weather Products" page
I think these only work of you already have one installed.
Do ALL the 6.7 have them already and no wires hook to them and all you need is the wires or do you also need to purchse the heater as well...
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You have the block heater there, you just need the cable. You can get it from the dealer, cummins and a few other places. If you just want the basic cable from Geno's get this: ENGINE BLOCK HEATER CABLE ('89-'11)-Dodge Cummins Diesel Truck Accessories – Geno’s Garage

Your block heater is located near the oil filter, their should be a black plastic cap on it from the factory. Depending on option some trucks came with the cord, may want to check first.

Also to help with warm ups you may want a winter front (front end cover), you can get aftermarket ones or the one from the dealer here: Chrysler EASy ? Accessories - Front End Cover

Installed it looks like this:

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